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#1 2020-05-02 08:51:23

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
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Need some help

I'm getting getting an error when trying to login to Backlight. I think I was on Backlight 2. I haven't been active in a while. I've move and lost my folder of notes . I lookup up my username and password by ftping to the site and opening /backlight/data/admin/password.txt. Is there a way to get the screenshot of the error to you?

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#2 2020-05-02 10:11:51

rod barbee
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Re: Need some help

use the img tag to post screen shots
http://community.theturninggate.net/vie … hp?id=7046


Rod 
Just a user with way too much time on his hands.
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#3 2020-05-02 10:21:11

Ben
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: 2012-09-29
Posts: 4,399

Re: Need some help

See this page for the instructions on retrieving passwords for BL2 (and 3).  The password.txt approach only applies to BL1.

https://backlight.me/docs/password-retrieval

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#4 2020-05-02 22:56:41

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
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Re: Need some help

How do I determine which Backlight I have installled? I recently moved and have been able to find my folder of notes on my Backlight installation. . I have time to upgrade to Backlight 3 Part of that plan includes getting SSL running on rossdickinson.com, hosted on Bluehost. I need to move forward. I will start researching the Backlight 3 install if being unable to currently login to Backlight isn't necessarry for the upgrade.

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#5 2020-05-02 23:09:56

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
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Re: Need some help

logging in to your BL2 installation is needed to update the site to BL3: https://backlight.me/docs/upgrading#upg … acklight-2

If you were using BL1: https://backlight.me/docs/upgrading#upg … cklight-1x

Ben might be able to tell more if you post a link to the site


Rod 
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ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#6 2020-05-02 23:38:30

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
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Re: Need some help

How do I determine which Backlight I have installled? I recently moved and have been able to find my folder of notes on my Backlight installation. . I have time to upgrade to Backlight 3 Part of that plan includes getting SSL running on rossdickinson.com, hosted on Bluehost. I need to move forward. I will start researching the Backlight 3 install if being unable to currently login to Backlight isn't necessarry for the upgrade.

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#7 2020-05-03 00:04:51

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
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Re: Need some help

the folder structure of BL1 is different than that of BL2. Can you post screen shots of the folder structure of the backlight/ folder on the server?


Rod 
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ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#8 2020-05-03 00:09:25

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
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Re: Need some help

Actually, looking at the html of the site you referred to it looks like you're on Backlight 1. The site is using the Okapi templates from BL1
unless you updated to 2 but didn’t make any changes.
a screen shot of the backlight/ folder structure would help


Rod 
Just a user with way too much time on his hands.
www.rodbarbee.com
ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#9 2020-05-03 01:26:01

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
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Re: Need some help

I posted the the screenshot in a folder called screenshots in /backlight/screenshots

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#10 2020-05-03 02:53:57

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
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Re: Need some help

R42itus wrote:

I posted the the screenshot in a folder called screenshots in /backlight/screenshots

that doesn’t do us any good without the link to your site.
And it would be a lot easier for us to help if you posted it to the forum. see my post above (#2)


Rod 
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ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#11 2020-05-03 04:04:22

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
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Re: Need some help

I've got SSL working now that I moved PHP to an earlier version. My site is https://rossdickinson.com. Since I'm still running the Okapi templates what is your recommendation? I'm not clear on the following quote from the upgrading document.

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Exclusive to those upgrading from Backlight 1, the standard Okapi modules may be installed from the Admin => Backlight Modules page. This includes okapi-album, okapi-album-set and okapi-pages. These modules are provided strictly for the purpose of transitioning your existing site to the newer version of Backlight, and you should prioritize the creation of new templates using Pangolin.
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#12 2020-05-03 04:16:22

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
Registered: 2012-09-24
Posts: 17,830
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Re: Need some help

from your screen shot I can tell that your on Backlight 1

what that text means is that when you update to Backlight 2, the Okapi modules are still available and you can install them. they will be available on the Backlight Module page, which is part of Backlight 2. This will keep your site looking the same until you can create Pangolin templates and apply them to pages, album sets and albums.

Backlight 2 and 3 are easy to update. You just have to go to the modules page and click on Update. Much easier than the old download, unzip, upload procedure of BL1


Rod 
Just a user with way too much time on his hands.
www.rodbarbee.com
ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#13 2020-05-03 04:40:33

Matthew
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From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: 2012-09-24
Posts: 5,795
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Re: Need some help

We supply the Okapi templates for transitional purposes. The Pangolin templates were introduced mid-life for Backlight 1, but not everyone adopted them. We provide the Okapi templates so that such users will not be suddenly faced with a broken or undesigned website after upgrading to Backlight 2. At this stage, however, you should be using the Pangolin templates; Okapi is retired.


Matt

The Turning Gate, http://theturninggate.net

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#14 2020-05-03 04:44:53

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
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Re: Need some help

Would you upgrade to Pangolin templates after the upgrading to 3 or before

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#15 2020-05-03 04:49:29

Matthew
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Registered: 2012-09-24
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Re: Need some help

Either is fine. Okapi still works in the meantime, and you'll just want to spend some time transitioning your site to the newer templates. The downside of staying on Okapi, of course, is that they haven't been updated in ... I don't know ... three years or something? Pangolin is where all the new features and improvements are.


Matt

The Turning Gate, http://theturninggate.net

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#16 2020-05-03 05:05:10

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
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Re: Need some help

I've been a long time user of CE  1-4 and upgraded to Backlight. I now have time to work on getting Backlight 3 working and adding more modules. I'll research the upgrade from Okapi to Pangolin and decide when. As is always the case with this site. The help is outstanding. Thank you.

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#17 2020-05-03 05:26:44

Matthew
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From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: 2012-09-24
Posts: 5,795
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Re: Need some help

Thank you.

There's not much research to be done. You'll just want to create new templates using the pangolin modules, then reassign your albums, sets and pages to use them. Backlight 3 has a Reassign feature that makes that pretty easy to do. Or, if you delete an Okapi template, you'll be asked which template to use to reassign everything that was using it.

To get started, I'd create a new page or album, and make it private, hidden from view. Then use that while you design your new templates. When you're satisfied with the new template, then reassign your public pages, albums, etc.


Matt

The Turning Gate, http://theturninggate.net

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#18 2020-05-03 05:28:39

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
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Re: Need some help

Once again Big SMILES

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#19 2020-05-07 03:17:05

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
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Re: Need some help

I am now working on getting a new Pangolin Template in place. I've created the "Pangolin Standard Template" with type Pangolin page. The new template is not visible to Lightroom although the API connection. Probably a simple answer but I'm missing it so far.

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#20 2020-05-07 03:21:59

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
Registered: 2012-09-24
Posts: 17,830
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Re: Need some help

Page templates are not visible to Lightroom. You need to create album templates and album set templates.


Rod 
Just a user with way too much time on his hands.
www.rodbarbee.com
ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#21 2020-05-07 04:18:13

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
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Re: Need some help

When I create the Album template, the new Pangolin Standard Template isn't available.

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#22 2020-05-07 04:23:09

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
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#23 2020-05-07 04:25:11

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
Registered: 2012-09-24
Posts: 17,830
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Re: Need some help

Depending on if you have the Okapi modules installed, the option you should be given when creating a new album template are:
Okapi Album and Pangolin Album (at least it is in Backlight 2)


Rod 
Just a user with way too much time on his hands.
www.rodbarbee.com
ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#24 2020-05-07 04:28:45

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
Registered: 2012-09-24
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Re: Need some help

What templates to you have in Backlight?
does the api url in this instance of Publisher match the site you're trying to publish to?


On adding screenshots to the forum: http://community.theturninggate.net/vie … hp?id=7046


Rod 
Just a user with way too much time on his hands.
www.rodbarbee.com
ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#25 2020-05-07 04:42:35

R42itus
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From: Baker City, Oregon
Registered: 2012-12-23
Posts: 67
Website

Re: Need some help

The templates in Backlight 3 - https://rossdickinson.com/backlight/scr … klight.jpg.

The api from lightroom https://rossdickinson.com/backlight/scr … entication from Lightroom.jpg

All the other elements are on the Okapi templates. I'm trying to created my first Pangolin page with 10 photos.

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