GDPR Notice & Acceptance Notice

Andreas67 · 2020-04-30 16:08:39

Hello,

thanks for Backlight3!

I have some questions about the GDPR Notice and Acceptance Notice.

The GA tracking start, before the user accept tracking. Can I change this, this does not coincide with european law.

When I check opt out from Google Analytics nothing change. The banner is still there and the tracking is still there. How can I fix this?

Thanks

Andreas

Matthew · 2020-04-30 16:13:05

Hi Andreas,

The script is "there" in the page's source code, but if the user has opted-out, then Google will not track them. This has been implemented according to Google's opt-out documentation, here:
https://developers.google.com/analytics … er-opt-out

Andreas67 · 2020-04-30 16:21:15

Hi Matt,

thanks for you fast reply.

What should happen, when I click on opt out?. My expectation is, that the cookie banner close and the tracking stop or better not start.

My banner doesn't dissapear and the tracking not stop. I can only close the banner when I accept tracking .Where is my mistake?

Thanks

Andreas

Matthew · 2020-04-30 16:32:52

If checked, then you are opting-out of tracking. The "accept" then refers to other things, such as cookies which are essential to the operation of the site (and which, is therefore, fully allowed under our reading of European law). The Turning Gate is also running on Backlight, so please read our Privacy page, which goes into more detail about what it being accepted:
http://theturninggate.net/privacy/

Similar would apply to your site.

Andreas67 · 2020-04-30 16:40:33

Hi Matt,

thanks, but I think this doesn't help european customers. I will deactivate or not start tracking in Backlight, because I think this consent solutions unfortunately doesn't fit to current european law.

Thanks

Andreas

Matthew · 2020-04-30 17:18:26

It's as compliant as it can be, and I fail to see how it's in violation of European law. They visitor is consenting to accept cookies on your website. If they opt-out of Google Analytics, then we set a cookie that tells Google Analytics not to run; they are consenting to that cookie. Thereafter, they are not being tracked.

If you'd like to read more about Google Analytics and GDPR, I found this article:
https://www.cookiebot.com/en/google-analytics-gdpr/

Here's another:
https://adzerk.com/blog/gdpr-google-analytics/

Between the cookies notice and consent, the opt-out of Google Analytics, and the Privacy Policy -- which I suggest you use, if you don't already have one -- I think we're well covered.

Matthew · 2020-04-30 17:19:46

Of course, if the analytics isn't that important to you, you can of course disable it entirely. Personally, I never look at analytics, and so I stopped using it ages ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Andreas67 · 2020-05-01 02:10:50

Hi Matt,

I think I'am familiar with this topic. An opt out isn't enough since last year. For Google Analytics, Social PlugIns an all these things you must have an opt in in Europe.

Off course analytics is important for me, this is the reason why I ask for this

Matthew · 2020-05-01 02:33:41

Okay. If you have some reading to share, European regulations are a moving target, and this is something we will hopefully be able to continually improve. Though in the case of Google Analytics, Google also needs to provide us appropriate tools.

Andreas67 · 2020-05-01 02:51:39

Hi,
my english is not so good, but I thinks this site give you some information. The main point is the verdict of oct 1. 2019, which is on the site.

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail … 1a6da8dec4

Here is one of the most popular Consent Tool for wordpress. It should only show the opt in is necessary

https://borlabs.io/borlabs-cookie/

Rainer Goergen · 2020-05-04 16:38:56

A question of mine,

on some user sites this terrible cookie banner is shown.
But when will this banner disappear? It is always there. See also the test site of Rod.

Rainer

Edit:

I have set the test site of Rod to Adguard, now this terrible banner will not shown.
Is this the only solution?

Last edited by Rainer Goergen (2020-05-04 16:49:58)

Matthew · 2020-05-04 17:04:38

I don't know what "terrible banner" you're talking about. I also don't think your comment is strictly relevant to this thread. Perhaps you'd better open a new topic.

Rainer Goergen · 2020-05-04 17:09:35

I have meant, that the cookie notice never closes.

Rainer

rod barbee · 2020-05-04 22:05:10

It disappears for me when I click “Accept”

tomowensphoto · 2020-05-04 22:51:41

Likewise, it goes where it should when I click "Accept"

Rainer Goergen · 2020-05-05 00:35:00

Curious, not on my iPad.

Rainer

rod barbee · 2020-05-05 00:41:41

works on my ipad. Curiouser and curiouser..

Matthew · 2020-05-05 01:25:31

Do you have cookies disabled on your iPad?

Rainer Goergen · 2020-05-05 02:50:46

No, I will test it once more.

Rainer

Edit:

When I disable my adblocker, I can click now on - accept - and the notice closes.

But I don't want such notices (my notice is in my privacy policy, no need for an extra window) so I use my adblocker, but I now know, that all works fine.

Last edited by Rainer Goergen (2020-05-05 15:52:46)

Markus · 2020-05-05 15:24:15

Hi,

I would like to include a Cookie Content Manager on my site (there are some, even free, on the market).
For this I have to include a Scipt-Snippet <script> ... </script> if possible directly after <head>, so that the page is monitored.

Can I do this somewhere in the settings?
Currently I have put the script at the beginning of "Page Copy" on Home Pages. Is it correct there?

Many Greetings
Markus

Daniel Leu · 2020-05-05 16:08:02

You can do this with phplugins using the head function.

A very long time ago, I wrote this before Backlight added support for the cookie message:

function head( ) {
echo '
<script src="/backlight/custom/js/cookieconsent.min.js"></script>
<script>
window.addEventListener("load", function(){
window.cookieconsent.initialise({
  "palette": {
    "popup": {
      "background": "#efefef",
      "text": "#404040"
    },
    "button": {
      "background": "#ffffff",
      "text": "#ff0000"
    }
  },
  "theme": "edgeless",
  "content": {
    "message": "By continuing to use the site, you agree to the use of cookies. You can find out more by following this ",
    "dismiss": "OK",
    "link": "link",
    "href": "/cookie_policy.php"
  }
})});
</script>';		
}

This shows you how you can add your script.

Markus · 2020-05-05 16:28:55

Hi Daniel,
thanks for your replay. The change in phplugins seems to work
Thanks
Markus

Daniel Leu · 2020-05-05 23:56:29

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