Disable right clik

powerfulphotography · 2018-03-21 16:11:16

Please, can you tell me how to disable the right click function to make it a little harder to copy photos

TBC · 2018-03-21 18:28:31

I would be interested in this, too, as we have had a number of cases of copyright infringement over the years, even to the point where the infringers were selling our work as their own. It is a pain to take the time to track down the thieves, do the DCMA take-down notices, etc. Alas, we live in an era of "What's mine is mine, and by the way, what's yours is mine, too!"

Take care,

Ben · 2018-03-21 18:40:02

An old post about this for CE4. I don't know how well the code snippet would apply to Backlight.

http://ce4.theturninggate.net/2011/12/3 … text-menu/

rod barbee · 2018-03-21 23:07:53

And here's another version from the CE4 docs, in case you want to include a message to the would-be thieves
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … ntext_menu

johnblaustein · 2018-03-22 00:06:26

Rod,

In the link you posted--http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku.php?id=phplugins_disable_the_context_menu--one thing included is:

"The notion that you can protect your images from being downloaded by using such a script is an utter fallacy; it's like hiding from monsters by closing your eyes. If you want to protect your images from illegitimate use, then your best options are either of:

"Don't put it online.
"Watermark the image, and embed metadata."

I agree completely! You simply can't prevent viewers from capturing what's on the screen, even if you can discourage downloading the image file. Windows even includes a utility called Snipping Tool that does this with ease. I'm sure MacOS has this too.

I'm curious, though, about "....and embed metadata." What metadata are you suggesting? Copyright notice? Or something that can help track illegitimate use?

John

rod barbee · 2018-03-22 00:15:07

I embed copyright and contact information along with the caption. I think all the camera data is also embedded.

I'm not sure about tracking info. Some people use Digimark (I think that's what it is) but I don't know how that works or if its information can be embedded by Lightroom.

Matt or Ben might know.

johnblaustein · 2018-03-22 00:37:52

Thanks, Rod.

My thinking is that the good guys don't steal pictures, and when the bad guys do, it's either too hard to find them, too much of a hassle to do anything to them once you do find them, and very unlikely you'll recover damages worth your time. As Margo says, these are the times we live in.

The good news is that the files the bad guys can download from our sites are low resolution and can't be used for much. That's not to say I like the idea of my images being stolen--I don't--but the damage done is generally not very significant (in my opinion).

If we're into telling stories, years ago a South American magazine copied pages out of an early edition of my Grand Canyon book and published a multi-page story using the photos and text from the book. I can't remember which country it was, but they have/had no copyright laws, so there was absolutely nothing to do about it.... other than be flattered that they liked my pictures!

John

rod barbee · 2018-03-22 00:48:24

And, from what I understand, unless you register your images with the Copyright Office, you can't really collect much in the way of damages (here in the US anyway).
A good resource for anyone interested in copyright protection is Carolyn Wright's PhotoAttorney blog.
http://www.photoattorney.com/

johnblaustein · 2018-03-22 01:28:16

Actually, “Under the Federal Copyright Act of 1976, photographs are protected by copyright from the moment of creation.”

https://thelawtog.com/copyright-laws-for-photographers/

“When is copyright created? Do I have to register it?

“Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created, and a work is “created” when it is fixed in a copy or phonorecord for the first time. In general, copyright registration is a legal formality intended to make a public record of the basic facts of a particular copy right. However, registration is not a condition of copyright protection. U.S. Copyright Office“

The bad guys don’t care if an image is copyrighted. Catching them and collecting damages ($) is the problem.

John

rod barbee · 2018-03-22 02:00:22

yes, they're protected. But to collect the maximum damages, the images need to be registered.
http://www.photoattorney.com/2008/07/ju … -your.html

Daniel Leu · 2018-03-22 02:11:40

From http://www.patent-trademark-law.com/cop … ringement/

There are 2 types of damages for copyright infringement: Statutory Damages and Actual Damages. For a copyrighted work that has been registered prior to infringement the plaintiff may choose to claim Statutory Damages or Actual Damages (in addition to claiming for attorney’s fees). A plaintiff who is claiming infringement for an unregistered work may only make a claim for Actual Damages.

That's why it is important to register with the copyright office.

There is a good book about this: The Copyright Zone: A Legal Guide For Photographers and Artists In The Digital Age 2nd Edition by Edward C. Greenberg and Jack Reznicki.

Re: Digimarc

There is no way to directly apply the Digimarc when exporting an image with Publisher. You would need to export from Lr to Ps, apply the Digimarc, and then re-import into Lr. Then this image can be exported using Publisher. I don't know how much the Publisher export affects the Digimarc watermarking. You can use a droplet with Ps to simplify the flow a bit, but it is still a pain (https://digimarc.force.com/blog/using-d … -lightroom).

johnblaustein · 2018-03-22 02:23:27

Good information. Thank you.

John

TBC · 2018-03-22 11:16:43

I wrote a blog some years back that has been updated periodically called "© is for Copyright" at

http://www.BCphotoadventures.com/blog/2 … copyright/

There are also a number of other blogs on associated subjects such as how to create copyright preset in LR and PS.

Many of you here may find it interesting. Over the years, I have put a lot of time into helping strengthen the laws and educating photographers, art directors, designers, etc. about them, even as far away as Australia!

Arnie and I have used Digimarc for quite some years, since 1998. It is an individual, digitally-embedded watermark. That has helped us catch a number of infringements and resulted in some paid invoices! We have not had to go to court, since we do register our images through eCO, the electronic Copyright Office, and all we have to say to the infringer is that the image is registered with the US Copyright Office, and if they would like to go to court, there is no question that the image is ours, and they will have the priviledge of paying not only our fees, but damages, i.e. court costs. We have even succeeded with overseas infringements because of the Berne Convention. I don't want to get into a long discussion here, but we feel protecting your copyright is very important. Frankly, I am not enamored of people trying to make money off our images!

I have created Actions in Photoshop for each copyright year, and all I have to do is click on the appropriate button. I don't find it a pain, as I only need it for exporting, and then I save it and send it along to the desired destination. For me, it is worth the extra 30 seconds or less to do it. And if I have a whole bunch of images to do, I do the same-year ones, batch process in PS, then go to the next year.

Take care,

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TBC · 2018-03-22 11:23:10

And I should add, and this drives me nuts, Mac computers strip file names and all metadata when you send an image out through their email program. Apple should know better, and it is irresponsible of them to not inform Mac users of this, so beware. If you are a Mac owner, be sure to send your images out through a regular e-mail program (gmail, etc.) that uses the paper-clip feature to attach an image to your message.

Take care,

Daniel Leu · 2018-03-22 13:50:09

TBC wrote:

And I should add, and this drives me nuts, Mac computers strip file names and all metadata when you send an image out through their email program. Apple should know better, and it is irresponsible of them to not inform Mac users of this, so beware. If you are a Mac owner, be sure to send your images out through a regular e-mail program (gmail, etc.) that uses the paper-clip feature to attach an image to your message.
Take care,

Not for me! The Mail tool on my Mac preserves all metadata. This is with Sierra.

Daniel Leu · 2018-03-22 14:09:57

TBC wrote:

I have created Actions in Photoshop for each copyright year, and all I have to do is click on the appropriate button. I don't find it a pain, as I only need it for exporting, and then I save it and send it along to the desired destination. For me, it is worth the extra 30 seconds or less to do it. And if I have a whole bunch of images to do, I do the same-year ones, batch process in PS, then go to the next year.
Take care,

So after the Ps action, you re-import the image in Lr so you can use Publisher? Do you do any image resizing when you export the image? Thanks!

TBC · 2018-03-22 19:58:09

Daniel Leu wrote:

Not for me! The Mail tool on my Mac preserves all metadata. This is with Sierra.

That is good to hear about Sierra. I'll look into it and pass along the information about Sierra to our alumni,

Thanks, and

Take care,

TBC · 2018-03-22 20:16:22

Daniel Leu wrote:

TBC wrote:
I have created Actions in Photoshop for each copyright year, and all I have to do is click on the appropriate button. I don't find it a pain, as I only need it for exporting, and then I save it and send it along to the desired destination. For me, it is worth the extra 30 seconds or less to do it. And if I have a whole bunch of images to do, I do the same-year ones, batch process in PS, then go to the next year.
Take care,
So after the Ps action, you re-import the image in Lr so you can use Publisher? Do you do any image resizing when you export the image? Thanks!

Yes, I have a few folders for images destined for Backlight and Publisher use to accommodate different sizes/treatments I use (panos vs. 2:3 aspect ratio, for example, or 2:3 aspect ratio vs "framed prints").

I resize, then do final output sharpening before sending the image from LR to PS (with the destination folder of my choosing, of course). In PS, I add the Digimarc, usually in a batch process of a certain YYYY at a time. If I have images from another year, I do then in another batch. Then, I Add them back into LR all at once, and they obviously show up in the correct folder.

Just as output sharpening is not a one-size-fits-all process, the same holds true for Digimarc. Both are dependent on the final output size of the image.

Hope this helps. Frankly, it probably sounds more complicated than it actually is.

Take care,

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Matthew · 2018-03-23 14:13:15

Here's a recent article about recent changes to US copyright for images:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/437974539 … -of-photos

Sounds like an improvement.

And I can't vouch for this, haven't used it, have only just found it, but it sounds interesting.
https://www.pixsy.com/

TBC · 2018-03-23 19:26:03

Matthew wrote:

Here's a recent article about recent changes to US copyright for images:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/437974539 … -of-photos
Sounds like an improvement.
And I can't vouch for this, haven't used it, have only just found it, but it sounds interesting.
https://www.pixsy.com/

It used to be that you could copyright a whole year (assuming you had not done so at least every 90 days) with one $55 fee. Now, there is a limit on the number of images you can copyright for that $55 fee.

As to Pixsy, I have heard about it. When I signed up for Copytrack, a similar service that goes after the infringers on your behalf, Pixsy wsn't around yet. For those who are following this thread, I would check out independent reviews and decide what is best for you.

Take care,

TBC

johnblaustein · 2018-03-24 05:36:35

Here's an interesting piece that speaks to the value of registering your copyright:

Insect Photographer Sues Pest Control Company for $2.7 Million

https://petapixel.com/2018/03/22/insect … 7-million/

https://petapixel.com/2015/04/03/so-you … what-next/

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Matthew · 2018-03-24 11:42:44

I went ahead and registered with Pixsy last night, and fed them 25 images. Got a bunch of matches almost immediately. The interface worked nicely; some images that I've reused across my websites popped up as matches, and I was able to ignore the entire domain, which immediately moved all matches between The Turning Gate and my personal ~~disaster~~ website out of the list. I was able to file DMCA takedown requests on several images, and have already had replies from those hosts. Someone was using one of my images as an album cover for music they were selling on Bandcamp, and Bandcamp quickly removed that image.

After reviewing the matches found, I decided only to issue DMCA takedown requests, rather than pursue damages. Looks to me like there's not much to be gotten. Overall, Pixsy has yielding surprisingly impressive results given how few images I've loaded into them so far. And this is all on the FREE pricing tier. I reckon it's worth a look from anyone taking interest in this conversation.

Matthew · 2018-03-24 11:46:08

I should also mention, several of the sites turned up are hot-linking images from my own sites. In these cases, DMCA takedowns are useless; I'd only be DMCAing myself. I'll need to setup some .htaccess rules to block these.

TBC · 2018-03-24 22:38:22

All good information, Matthew. I'll try the free Pixsy and do a side-by-side comparison with Copytrack and report back for those who might be interested. I agree that the time and money involved in a suit is usually not worth it, but if the images are registered, the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act, for those who don't know) takedown notices work very well, and even then, we have been able to bill the infringers who prefer to pay rather than risk a suit that they know they will lose.

Take care,

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