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#1 2016-08-27 13:22:20

jackm
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Registered: 2013-01-22
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Theater YouTube and General Question

I have downloaded and I am testing the Theater add-in.

2 Questions (so far).

1. In CE4 Stage I had a 'back" button (link) on the page that had the YouTube video in it to take me to the level above it. In Theater the breadcrumbs do not show up on the page that has the actual YouTube video on it. Can I duplicate that functionality?

2. The albums and album set show alphabetically on their screens. I have the albums/sets set up in Publisher with leading numbers (01, 02, etc) and the slugs are labeled that way and on my site via FileZilla they are in the order I want them to be. Backlight seems to ignore that order and goes alphabetic. Have I missed a setting somewhere, or can I change that behavior.

Thanks,

Jack

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#2 2016-08-27 15:05:27

rod barbee
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

1. Have you tried using the same Back button code you used in Stage?


2. In Publisher album set create/edit dialog there is a setting for sort order.
There is also the same setting in Backlight for top-level galleries


Rod 
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#3 2016-08-28 01:54:56

jackm
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Rod,

Thanks for the help on the sort order. All is good now.

Regarding the 'back' button. I used a "../" in the navigation settings in CE4 Stage. I am not sure how to do that in Backlight on all the web page that has the YouTube video in it.

Another item. I set up a Theater full screen album and page as my landing page. I intend to make it my home page. But for now the album that contains the actual images also shows up on the galleries page. Can I hide that album somehow, as it is only my landing screen and I don't want/need people to go to it.

www.stuffbyjack.com/backlighttest

Thanks,

Jack

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#4 2016-08-28 02:27:41

Daniel Leu
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Another item. I set up a Theater full screen album and page as my landing page. I intend to make it my home page. But for now the album that contains the actual images also shows up on the galleries page. Can I hide that album somehow, as it is only my landing screen and I don't want/need people to go to it.

This is called "Hide from Album Set". It is part of the album settings in Lightroom. You might want to set "Hide from Search" at the same time.


Daniel Leu | Photography   
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#5 2016-08-28 02:32:16

jackm
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Daniel,

Thanks for the help with the hiding of the album.

It worked fine.

I only have the back button, or how to have the breadcrumbs show, on the video screen to resolve.

Thanks again,

Jack

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#6 2016-08-28 02:36:24

Daniel Leu
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Regarding the 'back' button. I used a "../" in the navigation settings in CE4 Stage. I am not sure how to do that in Backlight on all the web page that has the YouTube video in it.

1) In Backlight, create a second menu set for your video pages where you add one additional URL link with Back ("../") entry. -> Video Menu
2) Clone your Page Template (eg, call it Video Page Template) and change its default menu to the new Video Menu.
3) In your Video Theater template, you then select this new Video Page Template.

That should do the trick.


Daniel Leu | Photography   
DanielLeu.com
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#7 2016-08-28 02:44:33

Daniel Leu
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

I only have the back button, or how to have the breadcrumbs show, on the video screen to resolve.

I don't think that breadcrumbs are supported at this point of time. They can be enabled in the Album Settings, but they don't appear on the page.


Daniel Leu | Photography   
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#8 2016-08-28 03:49:29

jackm
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Daniel,

Correct the breadcrumbs do not show up.

I tried your fix. But the "../" takes me back to my main web address (not even to the Backlight test area). Rather then one level up.

Jack

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#9 2016-08-28 05:02:10

Daniel Leu
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Hi Jack,

I just learned that Backlight handles menu entries differently than CE4... Bummer! So the "../" trick doesn't work anymore. If you only have one gallery that contains videos, you can have the Back entry point to the parent page. But if you have more than one video gallery, then it becomes cumbersome by having a new menu for each page.

There are a few other ways around this:

1) Add a back link to Album Settings > Page Copy

<a href="../">Back</a>

2) Add a button to Album Settings > Page Copy

<form action="../">
    <input type="submit" value="Back" />
</form>

3) Add a menu entry with Javascript

I am almost there, but not yet.

For the time being, #1 or #2 are your best bets.


Daniel Leu | Photography   
DanielLeu.com
My digital playground (eg, Backlight tips&tricks): lab.DanielLeu.com

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#10 2016-08-28 05:47:10

jackm
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Posts: 170

Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Daniel,

I am not sure where to add this. I would think the Theater template? But there is no "Page Copy" section on that template.

Anyway when I tried it there, and on a Page template, nothing happened anywhere.

I am not sure what I am looking for.

Thanks,

Jack

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#11 2016-08-28 06:10:14

Daniel Leu
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

In Lightroom, Edit Album -> Page Content -> Page Copy


Daniel Leu | Photography   
DanielLeu.com
My digital playground (eg, Backlight tips&tricks): lab.DanielLeu.com

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#12 2016-08-28 07:04:10

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
Registered: 2012-09-24
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

There should be a page copy area in the album template you're using for Theater YouTube video. See my demo:
http://backlight-rb-test.barbeephoto.co … y-youtube/

You can also create a linkable button by assigning the "button" class to an anchor tag:

<a href="../" class="button">BACK</a>

note that the button text will inherit the color of your hyperlinks ("a" tags). If you don't like that color, either add some inline styling:

<a href="../" class="button" style="color:white;">BACK</a>

or add some custom css:

a.button {
    color: white;
}

Rod 
Just a user with way too much time on his hands.
www.rodbarbee.com
ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#13 2016-08-28 10:21:04

jackm
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Daniel,

I got the button to show and work when I used the Lightroom method. For that album.

Rod,

The Theater album template only has "Album Copy" and nothing I put in there will show up on the screen with the video in it.

I apologize but I am not a 'coder' and just paste and copied your commands. So i am not sure exactly what this is doing. I would think I could have a button on every Theater screen and would not have to add it on every Lightroom album creation.

Jack

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#14 2016-08-28 10:29:44

rod barbee
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

The Theater album template only has "Album Copy" and nothing I put in there will show up on the screen with the video in it.

Make sure that in the Lightroom album set up, under Page Content that you choose the Page Copy placement option that includes the existing Page Copy ( which is the album template copy)
page-copy-placement.jpg


Rod 
Just a user with way too much time on his hands.
www.rodbarbee.com
ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#15 2016-08-28 10:31:37

jackm
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Posts: 170

Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Rod,

I looked at the Lightroom Publisher settings and the "Replace copy on template" was selected for the Page Copy. Changed it to "above existing page copy". Now the Backlight Theater template button addition seem to be working for all videos.

Not al all intuitive as CE4 was.But it looks like for now I am good.

Hopefully Breadcrumbs gets enabled in the Theater template and this will go away.

Daniel and Rob, thanks again for all your help.

Jack

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#16 2016-08-28 10:32:52

jackm
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Posts: 170

Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Rod,

Your explanation  came in as I was typing my response.

Thanks,

Jack

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#17 2016-08-28 10:46:17

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
Registered: 2012-09-24
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Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

Not al all intuitive as CE4 was.But it looks like for now I am good.

Actually, it works the just the same as CE4. Except for the part about not having to create your templates in Lightroom.


Rod 
Just a user with way too much time on his hands.
www.rodbarbee.com
ttg-tips.com, Backlight 2/3 test site

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#18 2016-08-28 15:40:21

Ben
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: 2012-09-29
Posts: 4,399

Re: Theater YouTube and General Question

In Backlight, all URL values are treated either as absolute, or relative from the Site URL.  Examples of absolute URLs are http://yoursite.com/ or /galleries.
An example of a relative URL is galleries/portraits/.

The relative value is interpreted as http://yoursite.com/../, which the browser sees as http://yoursite.com/ (since there is no level higher).  If your site was running in a subdirectory, e.g. at http://yoursite.com/my-backlight-site/, then "../" would take you to http://yoursite.com.

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