Ugh...everything was working well until...

leftyimages · 2015-06-29 11:02:05

I hope Rod or Matthew or someone else can help me here. Not sure if I should start all over...

I had uploaded everything yesterday and everything was working as directed. I made a decision to change the galleries from Descriptive to Iconic. I also noticed that I had not installed Auto Index so thought I would create and install that as well. After making changes to Pages, Galleries, and Auto Index in "web" in LR and exported and uploaded, I received that massive "Error" message (which I did not save). In the middle of trying to "revert" back and problem solve whether it was at the Pages, Auto Index, or Galleries level, I have a couple of issues. As follows.

I have a copy of my Pages export from 6/27. When I upload that, the error message does not show up.
When I upload export from 6/28 the error message shows up.
I (for good and/or bad) tried deleting the blank gallery templates and rebuilding them and renaming them to see if that was the error.
I also tried deleting the entire galleries subfolder via FTP (which was bad!) since the galleries were deleted directly and not via Publisher in LR (don't worry, won't do that ever again as long as I can remember).

Anyway, here are now my issues:

#1 on Galleries page, there are residual "space invader" icons

http://www.leftyimages.com/galleries.php

#2
I can't post screenshots, but in Publisher in LR, the available "templates" are the original 4 from yesterday and not the new ones that I created and uploaded today. I tried naming them the same, naming them something new, but it does not seem to refresh.

#3. I'm not sure what I did wrong trying to change from "Descriptive" to "Iconic" albums in Gallery.

My Settings in Auto Index are:
Auto Index type: desktop: Iconic
Aspect ratio 16/16
Album Columns 4
Album Info Height 40px
Album spacing 8px
Album Info: Title Only
Overlay Album Info: Yes
Overlay animation: Always-on
Overlay Horizontal: Left
Overlay Vertical: Bottom
Album Info Background-color (white) at 80% opacity
Border, Padding, Text-shadow all checked
Alignment: Left
Drunken Thumbnails (unchecked)
Fade description checked

In Pages: I tried to put the same settings:
Auto Index type: desktop: Iconic

Under Iconic, the settings are nearly identical (I just noticed I had 2 columns instead of 4?)
40px
8px
Title only
Yes
Always on
Left
Bottom
White at 80%
Same checkboxes.

I'm going to try and export a pages with 4 columns and upload and maybe you can see the "error" message.

Thanks in advance

Francis

leftyimages · 2015-06-29 11:39:19

This is the error message. I'm going to try and export a Pages without the iconic option...

<% if model.autoindex.type.desktop == 'descriptive' then %>
<div class="album grid_<%= math.floor( 12 / model.album.settings.columns ) %> clearfix">
<div class="album-mantle clearfix">
<a class="album-link" <% write("<?php print $AI_TARGET; ".."?"..">")%>></a>
<div class="album-core clearfix">
<div class="album-thumbnail clearfix" style="background-image: url(<% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['thumbnail']; ".."?"..">")%>);">
<a href="<% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['url']; ".."?"..">")%>"><img alt="Album Title" src="<% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['thumbnail']; ".."?"..">")%>" class="album-image" /></a>
</div>
<div class="album-info">
<p class="album-title"><% write("<?php if (isset($albums[$i]['access']) && $albums[$i]['access'] == 'locked'){ ".."?"..">")%><span class="locked"><i class="fa fa-fw fa-lock"></i> </span><% write("<?php } ".."?"..">")%><% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['title']; ".."?"..">")%></p>
<p class="album-description"><% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['description']; ".."?"..">")%></p>
<% if model.album_info.fade then %>
<p class="album-overlay"></p>
<% end %>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<% elseif M.autoindex.type.desktop == 'ce4-freewall' then %>
<div class="brick" style="height: <%= math.floor(M.photoSizes.thumbnails.height + (M.freewall.margin * 2) + (M.album.border.width * 2)) %>px;">
<div class="album clearfix">
<a class="album-link" <% write("<?php print $AI_TARGET; ".."?"..">")%>><img alt="Album Title" src="<% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['thumbnail']; ".."?"..">")%>" class="album-image" /></a>
<ul>
<li class="album-title"><% write("<?php if (isset($albums[$i]['access']) && $albums[$i]['access'] == 'locked'){ ".."?"..">")%><span class="locked"><i class="fa fa-fw fa-lock"></i> </span><% write("<?php } ".."?"..">")%><% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['title']; ".."?"..">")%></li>
<% if M.mosaic.Title == 'titleanddescription' then %>
<li class="album-desc"><% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['description']; ".."?"..">")%></li>
<% end %>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
<% elseif model.autoindex.type.desktop == 'iconic' then %>
<div class="album grid_<%= math.floor( 12 / model.album.settings.columns ) %> clearfix">
<div class="album-mantle clearfix">
<a class="album-link" <% write("<?php print $AI_TARGET; ".."?"..">")%>></a>
<div class="album-core clearfix">
<div class="album-image mosaic-backdrop"
style="background-image: url(<% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['thumbnail']; ".."?"..">")%>);">
</div>
<div class="mosaic-overlay">
<div class="album-info">
<p class="album-title"><% write("<?php if (isset($albums[$i]['access']) && $albums[$i]['access'] == 'locked'){ ".."?"..">")%><span class="locked"><i class="fa fa-fw fa-lock"></i> </span><% write("<?php } ".."?"..">")%><% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['title']; ".."?"..">")%></p>
<% if model.mosaic.Title == 'titleanddescription' then %>
<p class="album-description"><% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['description']; ".."?"..">")%></p>
<% if model.album_info.fade then %>
<p class="album-overlay"></p>
<% end %>
<% end %>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<% elseif model.autoindex.type.desktop == 'text-only' then %>
<div class="album grid_<%= math.floor( 12 / model.album.settings.columns ) %> clearfix">
<div class="album-mantle clearfix">
<a class="album-link" <% write("<?php print $AI_TARGET; ".."?"..">")%>></a>
<div class="album-core clearfix">
<div class="album-info">
<p class="album-title"><% write("<?php if (isset($albums[$i]['access']) && $albums[$i]['access'] == 'locked'){ ".."?"..">")%><span class="locked"><i class="fa fa-fw fa-lock"></i> </span><% write("<?php } ".."?"..">")%><% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['title']; ".."?"..">")%></p>
<p class="album-description"><% write("<?php print $albums[$i]['description']; ".."?"..">")%></p>
<% if model.album_info.fade then %>
<p class="album-overlay"></p>
<% end %>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<% end --[[ autoindex.type ]] %>

rod barbee · 2015-06-29 12:00:03

I can't post screenshots

on posting screenshots to the forum: http://community.theturninggate.net/top … our-posts/

Someone else was having a similar issue: http://community.theturninggate.net/top … is-errors/

See if any of that sounds familiar

leftyimages · 2015-06-29 12:13:54

Yeah. I looked at the post before adding mine in hopes it was correct. Well I created another Pages export with "Descriptive" album and not Iconic and the error message goes away. Here are some screenshots of settings(and other items)

This is the phantom albums that won't seem to go away...

This is on my FTP which shows that there are no albums there at that time...

This shows what the options are in the Publisher even though I closed down LR and opened it up again. I exported new Galleries and renamed them but the new ones are not "refreshing" to be seen?

I also created another Publisher instance to see if I just need to start over with Publisher but it still did not refresh...

This was the setting in Pages (I tried changing the columns from 2 to 4

This was the setting in AutoIndex

If the issue was with AutoIndex, I could probably live without it.
If the issue was that I had not checked "Iconic thumbnails" in the Galleries, I have since checked them, exported, and uploaded, but Publisher can't see them.

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As an aside, it seems also that if Publisher publishes an album with images with a LR export watermark preset, if I remove the images, delete the album (which removes it from the website as seen on FTP client) and then re-create the album brand new de novo as well republish the album, it does not update the watermark. Whatever was previously watermarked remains? Not sure if there is a "refresh" issue?

I also tried refreshing the "cache" in Safari...I will try and open this in Firefox to see if it is a browser issue?

Thanks again...

Last edited by leftyimages (2015-06-29 13:06:28)

leftyimages · 2015-06-29 12:27:00

Not sure if this helps, but when I uploaded the Auto Index "package" I had uploaded to the "galleries" subfolder and not the website root...

Thanks.

leftyimages · 2015-06-29 12:35:16

I tried logging onto TTG-BE Admin and it shows that there are 2 albums even though I had previously deleted them:

I am going to try and delete the Publisher from LR and see if that can be reinstalled and see the new galleries? This seems painful if I ever update Gallery templates in the future?

Thanks.

leftyimages · 2015-06-29 12:37:44

I also tried to update the albums here:

No success on the actual webpage.

Thanks.

Last edited by leftyimages (2015-06-29 12:38:03)

leftyimages · 2015-06-29 13:08:58

Here is some more info. Maybe this will help?

So these "phantom albums" are actually...

These two gallery templates when you click on them.

So the gallery templates show up empty because there are no images in them but I can't access the templates in Publisher either...

Hope that helps!

rod barbee · 2015-06-29 21:38:54

That's all pretty hard to follow. You may just want to start over. If you've deleted albums via FTP then you'll also need to go in to the ttg-be Publisher database and remove them there as well. http://ttg-tips-and-tricks.barbeephoto. … -database/
Use caution and if you're not comfortable with doing this, be sure to ask Ben for help.
If you're just getting started with all this, it might be easiest to delete all of ttg-be and begin again. (this will delete the database too)

But one thing in your messages stood out:

If the issue was with AutoIndex, I could probably live without it.
If the issue was that I had not checked "Iconic thumbnails" in the Galleries, I have since checked them, exported, and uploaded, but Publisher can't see them.

When you use the Iconic thumbnails option in CE4 Gallery, the presentation of the thumbnails is iconic. Meaning the thumbnails themselves are still output at whatever size you specify in Output Settings > Image Renditions and at their original aspect ratio. They are presented in the thumbnail container in Gallery as iconic, probably using the css background-size property set to "cover".

So you shouldn't expect the autoindex, when set for an Iconic layout, to use "iconic" thumbnails generated by Gallery, because Gallery is not generating those "iconic" thumbnails. If using the Iconic layout in Autoindex, you'll probably want to create larger custom thumbnails to represent each gallery.
More on that here: http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … thumbnails
and here: http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … album_sets

leftyimages · 2015-06-29 22:14:13

@rod. Thanks so much. I mentally was prepared to rebuild it from scratch. The second time should be faster! Also most of the time is playing with the formatting so hopefully it would be more smooth.

Question RE: Auto Index. So am I supposed to put the Auto Index contents in every "parent" folder I plan to use it? I thought I read that it only goes 1 folder deep. I was trying to follow your tips/trick post on this as well.

How deep can we nest the galleries?

So if we have /galleries (with Auto Index) can we then have

/galleries/albumset1/subalbumset1/album1
/galleries/albumset1/subalbumset1/album2
/galleries/albumset1/subalbumset2/album1
Also...
/galleries/albumset2/subalbumset1/album1 and album 2
/galleries/albumset2/subalbumset2/album 1 and album 2

Another question is does this automatically get built in Publisher? IE If I build an album set in Publisher (IE albumset1 above) and nest another album set, etc., this would all get automatically formatted on the site?

That would also imply that if I decide to change the nesting and move the folders around in Publisher that it would automatically update the folder structure on the site?

Thanks in advance!

rod barbee · 2015-06-29 22:25:52

Yes!

You can nest autoindexes (album sets) as deep as you want. My site has several layers (perhaps too many.... )

and because you're using templates (created with Gallery and Autoindex) all the indexes and albums you create will take on the styling of those templates. When you create an album set it automatically just appears where you created it, all formatted and ready for albums to be added.

And the beauty of Publisher is that you can simply drag albums or album sets into other album sets and it will all be automatically rearranged on the server.

leftyimages · 2015-06-29 22:32:40

@rod. Thanks again. So I'm getting ready to reinstall this. Seems like the order should be maybe. At least my approach...

Install TTG BE engine
Install Pages
Install AutoIndex
Install Galleries
Install Publisher (or at least configure...it looks like my LR5 does not fully "remove" it but just deactivates it)
Then install/publish albums/album sets.

I also have CRG but haven't gotten to that yet...

Thanks.

Ben · 2015-06-29 22:32:43

leftyimages wrote:

How deep can we nest the galleries?

The limit is a depth of 10. This limitation is fairly arbitrary. To date nobody has asked us to increase it.

rod barbee · 2015-06-29 22:39:13

The order of installing doesn't matter so much, just that everything is in place.
For instance, you'll probably see an error on your Pages site if you haven't installed TTG-BE. And you need to have Publisher installed before you can use its features.
You'll need to upload an autoindex and a gallery export to ttg-be/templates/autoindex and ttg-be/templates/gallery before you can create any albums or album sets in Publisher.

leftyimages · 2015-06-29 23:49:18

Thanks Rod. I wonder if I was putting the templates in the wrong folder. Too late now... trying to upload the Publisher folder but from the admin log on it is not recognizing that it was done. I've deleted the Publisher folder via FTP and uploaded several times but is giving me this message:

That happens after I click on Publisher here:

Last edited by leftyimages (2015-06-29 23:50:16)

rod barbee · 2015-06-29 23:56:37

It's really hard to tell without seeing what you've done. Can you post a screen shot of the folder structure on the server?

The unzipped publisher/ folder should be placed in /ttg-be/

the exported gallery templates go in /ttg-be/templates/gallery/
the exported autoindex templates go in /ttg-be/templates/autoindex/

leftyimages · 2015-06-30 00:02:03

I think I uploaded the auto index to the "galleries" folder and not in the ttg-be/templates folder. Oh well. I'm past that now.

Here you go on folder structure

Last edited by leftyimages (2015-06-30 00:04:33)

rod barbee · 2015-06-30 00:16:54

in your first screen shot you show ttg-be. But where are all the Pages files? All those should be there too.
It should look something like this:

Also, make sure upload your gallery templates into the ttg-be/templates/gallery/ folder. Don't simply upload them to the templates/ folder

leftyimages · 2015-06-30 00:35:54

@Rod. I haven't gotten to that point yet. I was still trying to go through the reinstall process. I uploaded the TTG-BE folder and then the CRG and Publisher folders to TTG-BE, but when I logged into TTG-BE admin to run through the CRG and Publisher installs, it gave me the error message in the previous screenshot. I can try uploading the site without installing publisher, but I know I need to install the API key before the Publisher plugin will work...

rod barbee · 2015-06-30 00:42:33

well, it looks like you've got Publisher installed: http://www.leftyimages.com/ttg-be/publisher/
what I see is the expected message.

If things still aren't working you'll want to enable guest access to ttg-be so there will be more for Ben to look at. Ben may need admin access to it or even ftp access.

leftyimages · 2015-06-30 01:03:16

@Thanks. I tried deleting the folder and uploading multiple times just to see if there was a corrupt file in the FTP process. I also tried unzipping to create a new folder in case there was a corrupted file on my hard drive. There were no problems the first install...so not sure what is different unless there is something I need to let my host know about to flush?

Anyway the main site is up and running without any glitches. I uploaded the templates and auto index here:

leftyimages · 2015-06-30 01:08:35

@Rod. That is strange. You are probably going to believe it, but it works now after I emptied the cache in Safari... and now the Publisher settings were accessible and I created the API and now the Publisher plugin sync'd with it. Now to play with a couple of albums! Hopefully this is a good day!

Last edited by leftyimages (2015-06-30 01:15:00)

rod barbee · 2015-06-30 01:21:15

Yay!
Ah, the mighty browser cache. That can cause all sorts of confusion.

leftyimages · 2015-06-30 01:57:55

Okay. An update. Still getting error message. I exported 3 versions of my pages. Descriptive, Iconic, and Freeway/masonry.

Here are the results:

Freeway. Masonry. Gives the Error message...

Iconic. Gives the Error message...

Descriptive. No error message. Looks like the album is more Iconic. (note: custom thumbnails will be the next step). So this Pages export was done with "Auto Index type: desktop: Descriptive"

This is how it is formatted to appear in Iconic in Web in LR

Any thoughts?

Last edited by leftyimages (2015-06-30 01:59:53)

leftyimages · 2015-06-30 02:32:38

So I uploaded a second album and it looks like Descriptive works like last it did yesterday AM. Iconic still gives an error which I have left up active on the site.

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