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#1 2015-05-14 05:56:31

mjenich
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Registered: 2013-07-05
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Can't publish without file names on the images

This first paragraph is being written after I posted the remaining paragraphs. I used the edit button to add this paragraph.  I found a way to get the file names to not show up on the images on my site. I simply had to use a different folder. I created a folder today, "Stuart 3" with new settings. I uploaded it to ttg-be/templates/galleries. Then I made sure that Stuart 3 was listed in the template in the album page. It worked. Images show up on my site without the file names.  I tested it a few times and it continued to work. The key was to get the publisher to use the folder with the new settings i.e. Stuart 3. But I still can get the TTG-CE4 Publisher in Publisher manager to SAVE. Below are some things that I tried based on our last communication.


I think we're communicating past one another. You don't understand what I'm saying and I don't understand what you're saying. So let's take this one step at a time. I updated CE4 Gallery. Here's how I did it. I went to the TTG site, found my order, downloaded the Gallery, went to my C drive and found my way to the Web Galleries folder, deleted the Gallery folder and replaced it with the Gallery folder  that I just downloaded. It was the lrwebengine. Did I do that correctly?

BTW when I wrote about numbers, I meant file names which in my case were the image numbers that were assigned in the camera. Sorry!

The settings in Image Info and Publisher Setup in Output settings are the same i.e. they are blank. In Image Info. labels I have nothing checked in Title, Caption, Metadata 1 and Metadata 2. In Output Settings, Publisher Setup, I deleted everything. Every field is blank including Title, Caption, Metadata 1, and metadata 2.

Regarding TTG-BE/templates/Gallery and using FileZilla-I have 4 folders there. 1. Cart Default, 2. MartysTestGallery1207, 3. MartysTestGallry1207 (gallery is misspelled), and 4. Stuart 3. Stuart 3 is the one I created and uploaded today. MartysTestGallery1207 shows up in the page when I try to create album in publisher as well as TTG-Be Publisher settings, in search template. Should I try to change the folder in the search template in TTG-BE to the new folder "Stuart 3?

I tried creating another instance. I rt. clicked on TTG CE4 Publisher in Publisher Services and then clicked on "Create another publish...". That brought up "manager". Two TTG CE4 Publisher appeared on the left side-one not saved. I tried publishing using the new instance and got the same results i.e. images with the file names on them. I tried to remove the Instance of the Publisher that was not saved using the buttons on the bottom. It was removed but then the new TTG Publisher instance  indicated it was not saved. I tried to save it and it wouldn't allow it. That's what happened previously. Did I do it correctly?

Enough for now.

Last edited by mjenich (2015-05-14 06:20:29)

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#2 2015-05-14 06:10:32

rod barbee
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From: Port Ludlow, WA USA
Registered: 2012-09-24
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Re: Can't publish without file names on the images

Regarding TTG-BE/templates/Gallery and using FileZilla-I have 4 folders there. 1. Cart Default, 2. MartysTestGallery1207, 3. MartysTestGallry1207 (gallery is misspelled), and 4. Stuart 3. Stuart 3 is the one I created and uploaded today

can you provide a link to it? I tried several combinations of the name (Stuart 3, Stuart-3, stuart3, etc, and can't find it)

Can you provide a link to an album using this template?

It's hard to tell what might be going on unless we can look at an album that's using the template, so links always help.
And I really can't tell you anything without seeing an album that's using this template.

MartysTestGallery1207 shows up in the page when I try to create album in publisher as well as TTG-Be Publisher settings, in search template. ?

What do you mean by "page"? The create/edit album dialog? Is that the only template listed then? This would mean that either Stuart 3 isn't a CE4 Gallery or it's in the wrong folder.

Should I try to change the folder in the search template in TTG-BE to the new folder "Stuart 3

Do you mean the name of the template that you can choose in ttg-be > Publisher Settings > Search template?

At this point it probably doesn't matter, but yes, once you get the new template working as you want for your regular albums, you'll want to change the search template too.


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#3 2015-05-14 06:22:33

rod barbee
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Re: Can't publish without file names on the images

I tried creating another instance. I rt. clicked on TTG CE4 Publisher in Publisher Services and then clicked on "Create another publish...". That brought up "manager". Two TTG CE4 Publisher appeared on the left side-one not saved.

You can also try clicking on the Add button and naming the new instance. After which, you may still need to save it from the dialog. Lightroom seems a little funny in this regard.

What I see happening occasionally is this: I'll right click on any of my Publisher instances and create another. I'll fill out all the fields and save it. But sometimes I'll see that the one I originally right-clicked on now shows "Not Saved". So I go back to that one and save it. That usually works.

Just a Lightroom quirk I'm thinking.


Rod 
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#4 2015-05-14 06:47:49

rod barbee
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Re: Can't publish without file names on the images

Ok, I took the time to look at every single album and gallery on your Galleries page. All but one are albums, so I'm not concerned with that one.
But in regards to the albums, with the exception of "Default Album" (which has no images and which you shouldn't be using anyway) and the "test-again" album, every single one of the albums on your Galleries page is using the MartysTestGallery1207 template, which was made with CE4 Gallery 6.1.3.

The "Default Album" and "test-again" album are using the "stuart 3" template. (You should rename that to remove the space, by the way.) "stuart 3" is made with CE4 Gallery 6.1.5 so you apparently installed the update correctly wink
At any rate, the "test-again" album doesn't have any file names in the thumbnails. So your template is working as you wanted.

All you should need to do is to edit all the other albums (right-click on the album and choose "Edit Album...") and change the template they each use (rename the template folder first though)
You may then need to republish the images.

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#5 2015-05-17 01:42:55

mjenich
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Re: Can't publish without file names on the images

You wrote: "What I see happening occasionally is this: I'll right click on any of my Publisher instances and create another. I'll fill out all the fields and save it. But sometimes I'll see that the one I originally right-clicked on now shows "Not Saved". So I go back to that one and save it. That usually works.

Just a Lightroom quirk I'm thinking."

I've done that same thing a number of times and while I keep manager open, it does not indicate that it's "not saved". However, if I close manager and open it again, it indicates that it is "not saved".

I've got publisher up and running and it seems to be working just fine. I can publish and republish albums and images and do so from not only the 2015 catalog but also the 2014. Once again it is really slick. So I think the the fact that the instance does "not save" may be just a quirk as you stated. On the other hand, I'm also thinking I may run into problems down the road that may be related. I have no idea how.

Is there a place where I can learn more about the function of the templates? I noticed that you have a number of templates all with specific names. I'm wondering about the advantages/disadvantages of multiple templates and one in particular i.e. CE-gallery-standard-fotomoto.  I will be setting up an account with fotomoto soon and if there is advantage of having a specific template for them, I'd like to know. BTW-I changed the name of my template to something more descriptive.  That really helps. Also, does each template need to function with it's separate instance? Perhaps a broader question is, "Where can I learn more about the function of multiple instances?"

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#6 2015-05-17 01:59:15

rod barbee
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Re: Can't publish without file names on the images

I set up a number of templates for different kinds of pages. I have templates for CRGs, Stage templates for galleria slide shows or before/after comparisons for my Lessons pages. I created some templates with sidebars, some without. Some with different grid layouts, like Masonry, just in case I feel like changing things up on the site.

The problem with doing that is that each time a new version of Gallery comes out I may need to export and upload them all again. wink

I have a Fotomoto template because I have one album for selling prints. It's the only album that uses that template. The only difference between it and my CE4-standard is that it's set up for Fotomoto in the Output Settings Ecommerce section

Also, does each template need to function with it's separate instance?

No, not at all. You only need one instance of Publisher and it can access all templates that are in your templates/gallery or templates/autoindex folder.

Some people use multiple instances to manage separate folders. A lot of users keep a separate Clients folder for instance. This folder is often at the same server level as their main galleries/ folder. It therefore requires a separate instance of Publisher to manage it.
I have separate instances of Publisher for a number of reasons: my test site, my main site, albums I post on my Workshops site, a local WAMP installation, etc. 
On my main site I'm using two instances of Publisher, one for my galleries and one for my Lessons pages. It all depends on your requirements.


Rod 
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