Upgrading from C3 to C4 ?

sportfoton · 2014-11-17 19:11:24

Today, I run with the following.
CE3 TTG Auto Index Ver 6.1.6
TTG CE3 Gallery Ver 5.2.3
TTG CE3 Pages Ver 6.1.7
Cartridge Version: 2.1.4
Since then I have also
CE3 TTG Auto Index Enabler
CE3 TTG Viewport Sizer but these I do not use because I do not know what to wear them.

What would I gain by upgrading to CE4? and what would it cost me?
What, I understand it's not as easy to upgrade, there are some ready-made templates on the entire website you can download? I feel it's too much hassle for me to do this update, so I wished that there was a ready solution.

rod barbee · 2014-11-18 00:04:07

You can get an idea of costs by visiting the shop page. There is info on upgrading from CE3 to CE4 here: http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … ce3_to_ce4

what you could gain from upgrading:

Cart: You can now sell packages. Publisher can create images intended for sale as digital downloads.

Pages, Gallery, Stage, Autoindex: you can now include sidebars.

for your galleries, if you use Publisher you can include any text in the Publisher template in any of your albums. This means you can include standardized text in every album. So if you want to put instructions or terms or anything in a sidebar in all your gallery pages, you can do that.

The home page slide show in Pages can now be managed with Publisher.

better social media integration

Matt's got more here on what's new: http://theturninggate.net/2014/07/ce4-is-here/
Plus, in the month's since release, new features and fixes have been added. You can just look through the blog for those.

If you've used Publisher, then updating your site is easy. There's a CE3 to CE4 Publisher migration tool. And when you change your Publisher templates, then those changes show up immediately on the site.

If you're not using Publisher, then frankly, I wouldn't bother updating all your older galleries. There could be problems if you're using the Share Resources with CE3 Pages feature. But since CE4 Pages uses a different path to the resources than does CE3, I think all you would need to do is to make sure that the /resources/ folder remains in place on the server. I think.

You would need to redesign. CE3 web templates are not compatible with CE4. But you really only need to do your main designing once (say, in Pages) and then share those settings via user templates.
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … _templates

You can get some CE4 templates here: http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … _downloads

Enabler just allows you to add non-TTG galleries/pages to an autoindex page
Viewport sizer is a tool that helps you preview your designs on differently sized devices. More on that here: http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … _workspace

sportfoton · 2014-11-18 05:28:55

rod barbee wrote:

You can get an idea of costs by visiting the shop page. There is info on upgrading from CE3 to CE4 here: http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … ce3_to_ce4
what you could gain from upgrading:
Cart: You can now sell packages. Publisher can create images intended for sale as digital downloads.
Pages, Gallery, Stage, Autoindex: you can now include sidebars.
for your galleries, if you use Publisher you can include any text in the Publisher template in any of your albums. This means you can include standardized text in every album. So if you want to put instructions or terms or anything in a sidebar in all your gallery pages, you can do that.
The home page slide show in Pages can now be managed with Publisher.
better social media integration
Matt's got more here on what's new: http://theturninggate.net/2014/07/ce4-is-here/
Plus, in the month's since release, new features and fixes have been added. You can just look through the blog for those.
If you've used Publisher, then updating your site is easy. There's a CE3 to CE4 Publisher migration tool. And when you change your Publisher templates, then those changes show up immediately on the site.
If you're not using Publisher, then frankly, I wouldn't bother updating all your older galleries. There could be problems if you're using the Share Resources with CE3 Pages feature. But since CE4 Pages uses a different path to the resources than does CE3, I think all you would need to do is to make sure that the /resources/ folder remains in place on the server. I think.
You would need to redesign. CE3 web templates are not compatible with CE4. But you really only need to do your main designing once (say, in Pages) and then share those settings via user templates.
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … _templates
You can get some CE4 templates here: http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … _downloads

Enabler just allows you to add non-TTG galleries/pages to an autoindex page
Viewport sizer is a tool that helps you preview your designs on differently sized devices. More on that here: http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … _workspace

Where do you write the code to see what it costs?

Hello, and thank you for being a valued customer TTG.

CE4 updates are now available for Several of our plugins, and You are Entitled to a discounted upgrade from the CE3 version. To get your upgrade, visit the shop - http://shop.theturninggate.net - and add the new CE4 Web Publishing Bundle to your cart.

At checkout, use the discount code XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX for upgrade pricing.

rod barbee · 2014-11-18 05:48:13

Just go through the purchase procedure. After you've entered your contact info I think the next page asks for a discount code. you can enter that and click apply. I don't have a discount code to test with by I assume you'll then be shown the discount price. Then you can click the "complete purchase" button and presumably go on to the payment screen.
Give it a try and see what happens.

sportfoton · 2014-11-18 10:47:05

rod barbee wrote:

Just go through the purchase procedure. After you've entered your contact info I think the next page asks for a discount code. you can enter that and click apply. I don't have a discount code to test with by I assume you'll then be shown the discount price. Then you can click the "complete purchase" button and presumably go on to the payment screen.
Give it a try and see what happens.

If I buy CE 4 , can I have it installed in Lightroom while I still have my old CE3 and build the new site til it's finished and then upload it to my website ?

rod barbee · 2014-11-18 11:13:12

sure. I've got TTG plugins installed in Lightroom going back to before CE

Matthew · 2014-11-18 14:39:34

You have all of the individual items comprising the CE4 Web Publishing Bundle. If you'd like to PM me, I'll send you the bundle discount. The total savings are exactly the same, but you'll be able to checkout of the shop faster by using the bundle, rather than purchasing each individual item.

sportfoton · 2014-12-18 02:23:21

I have now bought CE4 Web Publishing Bundle , I have decided to make the site from the beginning. I have prepared Pages, Gallery and Auto Index as I want them. But now that crap !! In what order should I do the rest ? I read that you should install TTG -be. but when I read the instruction I find no folder on my website called ttg-be ! Can someone explain how I should do and in what order ?
I also bought cart earlier !

Matthew wrote:

You have all of the individual items comprising the CE4 Web Publishing Bundle. If you'd like to PM me, I'll send you the bundle discount. The total savings are exactly the same, but you'll be able to checkout of the shop faster by using the bundle, rather than purchasing each individual item.

Last edited by sportfoton (2014-12-18 02:24:34)

rod barbee · 2014-12-18 02:29:31

but when I read the instruction I find no folder on my website called ttg-be

ttg-be comes with Pages, Publisher and Cart. Unzip it and upload the ttg-be folder to the root of your site.
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … tion_setup

You can do that at any time but it's probably best to upload ttg-be first as you'll need it in place to install Publisher and Cart. And Pages' contact form depends on ttg-be

sportfoton · 2014-12-18 03:55:37

Just so I'm right! ? First, i copy ttg-be folder to the root of the website. Then I export pages in Lightroom and upload it to the root . after i copy the CE -4 Cart to ttg-be folder.

I am thinking right?

When and how do I install publisher

rod barbee wrote:

but when I read the instruction I find no folder on my website called ttg-be
ttg-be comes with Pages, Publisher and Cart. Unzip it and upload the ttg-be folder to the root of your site.
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … tion_setup
You can do that at any time but it's probably best to upload ttg-be first as you'll need it in place to install Publisher and Cart. And Pages' contact form depends on ttg-be

Last edited by sportfoton (2014-12-18 04:04:30)

rod barbee · 2014-12-18 04:55:56

Publisher is installed in ttg-be. It's all in the docs
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … stallation

ttg-be needs to be installed before Cart or Publisher. Other than that, the order doesn't really matter. I intalled ttg-be along with Publisher and Cart first and got all the back-end settings taken care of before uploading the CE4 Pages files.

If you've been using CE3 Publisher, be sure to read the docs on migrating control from CE3 Publisher to CE4 Publisher before you publish any more albums

sportfoton · 2014-12-18 05:17:37

I'll make a brand new installation, do I need to migrate Publisher CE 3 to CE fourth
I have read the document you linked to but I get stuck when I try to install Publisher, Lightroom , is this the right path ?
www.minsajt.se/ttg-be/publisher/

When i klick Check Authentication i get bad url

www.sportfoton.se/badurl.png

Is it right that cart should be in ttg-be folder?

rod barbee wrote:

Publisher is installed in ttg-be. It's all in the docs
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … stallation
ttg-be needs to be installed before Cart or Publisher. Other than that, the order doesn't really matter. I intalled ttg-be along with Publisher and Cart first and got all the back-end settings taken care of before uploading the CE4 Pages files.
If you've been using CE3 Publisher, be sure to read the docs on migrating control from CE3 Publisher to CE4 Publisher before you publish any more albums

Last edited by sportfoton (2014-12-18 05:52:28)

rod barbee · 2014-12-18 05:49:37

the publisher/ folder gets uploaded to ttg-be/
The CE4-Publisher.lrplugin gets installed like any other Lightroom plugin through the Plug-in Manager.

http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … oom_plugin

I have read the document you linked to but I get stuck when I try to install Publisher, Lightroom , is this the right path ?
www.minsajt.se/ttg-be/publisher/

what site are you installing in? If it's your sportfoton site, the location should be
sportfoton.se/ttg-be/publisher/

(I just looked at sportfoton.se/ttg-be/ and was able to log on as guest. I see you have Publisher and Cart installed. Looks like you're all set)

When i klick Check Authentication i get bad url

what's the url you're trying to authenticate? It should be http://www.sportfoton.se/ttg-be/publisher/

the cart should be in ttg-be. It's all in the documentation:
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … stallation

sportfoton · 2014-12-18 05:53:18

I came forward now URL and API functions . what's the next step? I will export the pages now?

rod barbee wrote:

the publisher/ folder gets uploaded to ttg-be/
The CE4-Publisher.lrplugin gets installed like any other Lightroom plugin through the Plug-in Manager.
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … oom_plugin
I have read the document you linked to but I get stuck when I try to install Publisher, Lightroom , is this the right path ?
www.minsajt.se/ttg-be/publisher/
what site are you installing in? If it's your sportfoton site, the location should be
sportfoton.se/ttg-be/publisher/
(I just looked at sportfoton.se/ttg-be/ and was able to log on as guest. I see you have Publisher and Cart installed. Looks like you're all set)
When i klick Check Authentication i get bad url
what's the url you're trying to authenticate? It should be http://www.sportfoton.se/ttg-be/publisher/

the cart should be in ttg-be. It's all in the documentation:
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/docs/doku … stallation

Last edited by sportfoton (2014-12-18 06:00:41)

rod barbee · 2014-12-18 06:05:04

If you want. I don't think there's one right way.

I actually uploaded my Gallery, Autoindex, and Stage templates for Publisher first and got everything in place as much as I could before uploading Pages.

But I created my design in Pages first and then ported those setting over to Gallery, Autoindex, and Stage

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