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#76 Re: Backlight Support » texture issue » 2016-07-24 19:12:11

Ken

Tom, thanks for sharing your experience. Backlight is so much better than CE4 in terms of ease of use, but I was beginning to feel a little frustrated attempting layout modifications not directly available in the Backlight settings. Thanks to Rod's encouragement, I found and watched two short very good yoututbe tutorials explaining the basic idea behind HTMl and CSS. The 28 minutes spent watching these tutorials gave the little knowledge needed to make the CSS scripts provided on the Backlight forum, much more understandable. I was able to modify the scripts in a fairly easy straightforward way to accomplish what I wanted. This achievement replaced some frustration with fulfillment and has encouraged me to continue learning. Knowledge is a powerful thing.

I like learning through video tutorials, but I will consider the book Rod suggested. The challenge for all of us is fitting our learning projects in with our work projects, which in my case includes design and layout, photo projects (landscape photography as well as other types of commercial work including events and portraits).

#77 Re: Backlight Support » texture issue » 2016-07-23 23:15:19

Ken

that makes sense, and now it works.

Thanks again for the encouragement to learn a little more about html and css

#78 Re: Backlight Support » texture issue » 2016-07-23 21:57:55

Ken

Thanks to your encouragement, I am making some progress. After getting my hands a little dirty, I was able to add left padding to the Navigation Header. This was accomplished by modifying the nav area of the CSS file. I was surprised how easy it was to make this one change.

I tried adding a media query to my the part of the CSS that calls up the texture. I thought this would limit the texture display to screens larger than 1024px, but it didn't work. Here is the modified CSS:

@media screen and ( min-width: 1025px )

.masthead,
nav,
.main, .page__main,
.page__tray[data-position="T1"],
.page__tray[data-position="T2"],
.copyright  {
    background-image: url(/test/photos/bkgrd3.jpg);
    /* adds texture to main page area but not negative space */
}

#79 Re: Backlight Support » texture issue » 2016-07-23 14:11:13

Ken

Rod, you are an inspiration. I found a couple of tutorials on youtube introducing HTML and CSS. It is starting to make a little sense, hopefully enough that I will be able to modify the code that you and others provide. If I understand correctly Backlight takes care of the HTML and uses CSS to style the web page. The option to use a separate CSS file allows the user to add additional CSS code to modify the style of a particular element on the webpage (by using a selector to specify that element and a rule that defines what type of style change is applied to that element).

It is a start. At least I have a little more understanding of the code you and others provide.

#80 Re: Backlight Support » texture issue » 2016-07-23 02:29:02

Ken

I don't understand very much about css, so I am lost when you say things like" put the css calling the background texture image in a media query to that it's applies only to screens larger than 1024px".

The reality is that if you are not a web programmer and understand CSS, your option is to work within the confines of Backlight, and when it will not do what you want, then try and take the basic code provided by you, Matt, and Daniel and use it for what it was intended, but without the ability to modify it.

Backlight is huge improvement over CE4, though it does not allow the same level of layout control. For example Backlight allows you to add Padding-left/right to the Masthead, but not to the Navigation Header, which greatly restricts your layout options for these two items. I would like for my Masthead and Navigation Header to line up but am limited to where the placement is. You can see what I mean at my test site   http://sweetlightgallery.com/test/home/

My hope is that future versions of Backlight will incorporate the layout controls that CE4 has and even improve upon them. I am amazed at what could be done with CE4, but I have to say using CE4 was the most frustrating unintuitive work I have ever done on a computer. This is not a criticism, but reflects the limitations of Lightroom and the challenge that Matt faced in creating the TTG plug-ins. The huge disadvantage of the CE4 plug-ins was offset by CE4 Publisher, which allowed easy creation of galleries and the inclusion of meta data in captions, plus CE4 Cart. These features I was not able to find in other wysiwyg website building programs. So I put up with the frustration of CE4 and was rewarded with a website with great galleries and a shopping cart.

The other amazing thing about TTG is the incredible support that you, Daniel and Matt provide on the forums. It puts large software companies like Adobe to shame.

I will continue to tinker, which is a lot easier in Backlight since you can see the results within a second or two.

Thanks again for your help.

#81 Re: Backlight Support » texture issue » 2016-07-23 01:43:36

Ken

OK, so when it is smaller than 1025 px, then a 100% non transparent background should be applied? Which would mean when the display is less than 1025 px the texture would be hidden by the background color?

Matt's original code allowed texture to be everywhere. I simply want to be able to have texture, but not in the negative space, which the code I modified does, but the texture is there even in a small browser window, which Matt indicates is not good. So how do I modify Matt's original code to accomplish what I want?

The ideal would be if there was a way to specify texture within Backlight. Perhaps in the future this capability will be incorporated.

#82 Re: Backlight Support » texture issue » 2016-07-23 00:38:28

Ken

I only changed the first part to what I thought would keep the texture from appearing in the negative space, which it does. I left the rest of the code the same, except the transparency setting. Doesn't the section @media screen and (min-width: 1025px) .... control the change from texture to color when the display is less than 1025px?

My goal is to use texture, but not in the negative space. I do not mind keeping the texture in small browser windows, but Matthew seemed to indicate that texture doesn't work well in small displays, that solid colors should be used.

#83 Backlight Support » texture issue » 2016-07-22 23:14:19

Ken
Replies: 15

sorry to start a new thread on textures, but I thought I had a mobile menu issue and texture issue. I sorted out the mobile issue, but had already posted and could not delete post.

The background texture does not switch to the basic colors when the browser window is small, which it is suppose to do using the CSS script. I had modified the CSS script to not include texture in the negative space. Here is the link to my test website and below it is the CSS.

http://sweetlightgallery.com/test/home/

.masthead,
nav,
.main, .page__main,
.page__tray[data-position="T1"],
.page__tray[data-position="T2"],
.copyright  {
	background-image: url(/test/photos/bkgrd3.jpg);
	/* adds texture to main page area but not negative space */
}

nav ul,
nav li,
.page__tray ul.menu li {
	background-color: transparent;
}

@media screen and ( min-width: 1025px ) {

	.masthead,
	nav,
	.main, .page__main,
	.page__tray[data-position="T1"],
	.page__tray[data-position="T2"],
	.copyright {
		background-color: rgba( 255, 255, 255, 0 );
	}

/*Slideshow styling
======================*/
#slideshow img {
	border: 2px solid white;
	box-shadow: 4px 4px 8px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);
	
}

#84 Re: Backlight Support » How to add image or slide show to home page? » 2016-07-22 06:34:59

Ken

you took the words thoughts right out of my mind. This was my next question. Works nicely, I used a white border.

#85 Re: Backlight Support » Responsive grid framework in Backlight » 2016-07-22 02:55:36

Ken

adding the alpha and the omega worked. A few more tweaks and I am ready to install cart.

Thanks Rod and Daniel for all of your help.

#86 Re: Backlight Support » Responsive grid framework in Backlight » 2016-07-22 02:03:22

Ken

I set the page template to a one-column layout, which helps the text occupy the entire page, but it is still indented in from the sides. Any thoughts on how to correct this?

#87 Backlight Support » Responsive grid framework in Backlight » 2016-07-22 01:37:08

Ken
Replies: 7

I used Rod's code to create a two column text layout. The only issue I see is that the two columns do not cover the width of my website. The left column/photo is indented and the right column has a lot of space on its right side.

here is the link to the page that uses two column code:

http://sweetlightgallery.com/test/photographer/

Any suggestions on how I can correct this?

#89 Re: Backlight Support » Background texture on web pages » 2016-07-21 22:03:23

Ken

I have read through this thread, but I can not get my background texture to be visible behind the masthead, navigation header, tray columns, main column, footer. The correct texture shows up outside these areas, on the left and right on a large display. I want to see the texture every where. What is odd is that the solid colors I set for these areas, shows up in a small display, which I understand is how the code should work, but in the large display I see the specified texture outside of the above areas, but then what appears to be some transparent version of it in the masthead, navigator, main column etc. Below is the link to my test site and below that is the entire CSS code I used, including the navigator borders, in case this has some influence. Any help is greatly appreciated.

http://sweetlightgallery.com/test/home/

nav {
    border-top: 1px solid green;
    border-bottom: 1px solid green;
}
html,
body,
main {
    background-image: url(/test/photos/bkgrd3.jpg);
    /* do your custom background things here */
}

nav ul,
nav li,
.page__tray ul.menu li {
    background-color: transparent;
}

@media screen and ( min-width: 1025px ) {

    .masthead,
    nav,
    .main, .page__main,
    .page__tray[data-position="T1"],
    .page__tray[data-position="T2"],
    .copyright {
        background-color: rgba( 255, 255, 255, 0.5 );
    }

}

#90 Re: Backlight Support » How to add image or slide show to home page? » 2016-07-21 13:33:11

Ken

Perhaps Rod's tips and tricks, Responsive grid framework in Backlight, might help me to understand how to get around this in Backlight.

#91 Re: Backlight Support » How to add image or slide show to home page? » 2016-07-21 12:53:49

Ken

For some people the sidebar text is an important part of the page layout and should be easily viewed by viewers with small screens. The CE4 website that I created has sidebar text which simply shifts below the main text block when viewed on a small screen. It looses it's connection to the page visual organization by having it incorporated in the menu. This reduces the layout options and usefulness of sidebar text in a layout. Perhaps there could be a way in future releases of Backlight to provide the option to place sidebar text below the main text when viewed on a small screen.

rod barbee wrote:
Ken wrote:

I notice that the tray copy appears in the condensed menu when it is selected

This is as intended. If you have any copy that you always want seen in desktop and mobile, then place that copy in the main text block.

#92 Re: Backlight Support » How to place horizontal rule above/below navigation header » 2016-07-21 02:23:09

Ken

as usual, you are great help,

This does what I wanted, thanks

#94 Backlight Support » Contact form Lorem ipsum text sticks » 2016-07-21 01:33:09

Ken
Replies: 2

Even though I deleted it in the Backlight page settings and added my own text, all of the "Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, ..." text in the Main Page Copy for the Contact form page plus my text both display in the contact page on my test website. I tried clearing out the browser cache, but this has no effect.

The only thing I can think to do is delete the contact page and recreate it.

Any other suggestions?

#95 Re: Backlight Support » How to place horizontal rule above/below navigation header » 2016-07-21 01:26:27

Ken

Works nicely, now if there was some way to get the two borders to extend the full browser window width?

#97 Re: Backlight Support » How to place horizontal rule above/below navigation header » 2016-07-20 22:30:20

Ken

I have never done this before. Any links with suggestions on how to incorporate custom css into a Backlight template?

#98 Re: Backlight Support » How do I display image caption and title... » 2016-07-20 22:28:14

Ken

is there anyway to change the position of the metadata text when viewing the image. Currently it displays at the bottom of the page, well below the image. In my CE4 galleries it displayed just below the image, which I prefer.

#100 Backlight Support » How to place horizontal rule above/below navigation header » 2016-07-20 22:23:00

Ken
Replies: 6

How do I place a horizontal rule above and below the the navigation header. I was able to do this in the CE4, but can not figure out where this setting is in Backlight

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