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#26 Re: CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-28 15:02:43

Thanks Rod,

I am positive people will find that a great help.

I have always felt that what each section was called was the hardest thing for a new user to puzzle out.

Your 'picture is worth a thousand words' !

Tony

#27 Re: CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-26 14:57:52

Just a line to say I am now using the modified template based on greys rather than black.

http://www.tonygamble.org/Gala_Dinner_2004/index.html

Certainly looks better. But any further suggestions/comments will be valued.

Thanks

Tony

#28 Re: CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-25 02:52:17

Thanks Rod.

I'll rely on the shadows.

Bye for today.

Tony

#29 Re: CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-25 02:26:37

OK.

I have added the padding. Yes, that is better.

I have also changed the background to the larger images from black to grey. Any views?

I am using Masonry Rigid as I prefer the extra space around the thumbnails.

Tony

PS. I shall be packing up shortly. Dinner time over here in the UK - or at least cocktail hour!

#30 Re: CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-25 02:03:22

Thumbnail borders.

I see. They alter depending on whether one uses Masonry Rigid or Elastic. I think I prefer Rigid as it puts more space round the images - so I need to forget borders.

Tony

#31 Re: CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-25 01:57:04

OK.

http://www.tonygamble.org/aaaa/

I got away with staying with grey.

I removed the graduation from the Page Body and just applied it to the grid.

Do you want to suggest some more improvements?

Would you alter the black that surrounds the enlarged images?

I was going to put borders round the thumbnails but they seem not to hug the sides of the vertical shots - but maybe I am doing something wrong.

Tony

#32 Re: CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-25 01:25:47

Thanks Rod,

I'll start using some colours.

I guess the clever thing is getting the gradient to work.

Tony

#33 Re: CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-24 20:40:49

Sorry it has taken time to respond. My web server folk disconnected me in error. Most annoying.

I have put up a folder:-
http://www.tonygamble.org/aaaa/

I don't want to take the easy way out and simply send the template for you to correct. That way I'll never learn.

Where I struggle is with the terminology of the various areas of the page. Have you ever considered adding a picture of a whole grid page and pointing out the names of the various areas. I have done a screen shot of my new look page and numbered the areas from 1 to 9. If you have time to tell me what each is called I will have another go at getting the shades of grey to match - I have simply used dark and light grey from the colour picker to save time.

ttg%20gallery.jpg

You can see that I am struggling to get the greys outside the thumbnail grid to match cleanly.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Tony

#34 Re: CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-23 17:25:42

Thanks Matthew,

I'll redo that folder today and repost. Maybe that will suggest some more improvements.

Tony

#36 Re: CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-23 00:36:48

Thanks Rod,

Some nice suggestions there.

About the red heading. I usually try to pick a colour from the first line of thumbnails. So it varies from folder to folder. It is a pity that the colour picker that comes up cannot register a colour from the image showing in Lightroom - but not a big deal as I can guess.

I'll tinker with the other ideas over the weekend.

Thanks again.

Tony

#37 CE4 Gallery » How would you improve my web folders? » 2015-05-22 23:46:32

tonygamble
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Moderators. Feel free to move this to the Showcase threads if you find it inappropriate for here.

My web site is the end product of a hobby photographer covering events at a local sports/social club. I don't sell photographs and I am not pitching for assignments.

I came to The Turning Gate through a need for web creation software that swiped and autosized on phones/tablets as more than half of my viewers access the site that way.

I have kept the design simple - partly out of fear of getting in a muddle and partly out of laziness. However, I am sure it could be better. The gurus here have encouraged me to buy Publisher but at the moment I am not hosted on a Linux - so whatever you suggest will need to be done in Gallery.

Adding some outlines? Shadows. Less black? Bigger thumbnails? Different thumbnail  template?

What would you suggest would make this better?

http://www.tonygamble.org/Bowls_Pimms_2015/index.html

Tony

#38 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-14 15:03:45

Thanks Rod,

I have run Four more tests (06.45 GMT).

Ben simplified the template. Yes, it is faster. 8 mins 30 secs for the same files.

Rod suggested making the files smaller. They did contain some large tifs. Dropping everything to jpgs no larger than 1800x1800 and 85% reduced the time to 7 mins and 13 secs.

That was using the template starting CRG-602.....

Taking those smaller files and doing the web creation locally (old fashioned method) took 2 mins 33 secs.

Finally I did the conversion to your server using the template starting gallery-614....

This was faster. 4 mins and 18 seconds.

I'm waiting to hear how much my FTP want to charge to move me to Linux.

And, yes, I still need to add the time needed to upload my locally loaded web folder by Filezilla to my FTP site to do the comparison fully.

One final factor not yet mentioned. Using the old method of creating the web folders locally and then uploading them with FZ means I have a replica of my FTP site held on this PC. If anything went radically wrong at the other end I would be able to recreate it almost instantly. Unless I am wrong using Publisher would necessitate me recreating each web folder individually.

Lots to think about.

Again. Thank you for your help and interest.

Tony

#39 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-14 02:00:56

Thanks Ben,

Full marks for the simple instructions.

I have got it working.

Maybe it is the time of day and/or the distance but it is slow. Thirteen minutes to create a 60 image folder.


I'll try it again in the morning.

Bye for now.

Tony

#40 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-13 23:50:13

Thanks Ben.

If only my FTP supplier replied as quickly and efficiently!!

Tony

#41 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-13 22:02:51

Thanks Matthew.

I'm in touch with my FTP supplier about Linux now.

You said:-

"I can set you up with Publisher access to my dev server if you'd like to try it out."

Is that practical?

Tony

#42 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-13 00:38:19

Thank you Ben.

You have spent more than a fair share of your time on a potentially unsophisticated customer. The ability to change design of galleries and add, remove and re-order images is something I am most unlikely to do.

You will have seen my main site. It is nothing more than a big photographic scrap book. It does the deed for the limited number of people it interests. I wanted swipe and autosize and you provided it. (Interestingly I sat next to a two year old girl at lunch last week and her mother told me with great pride that she knew how to swipe !!)

My interest in Publisher comes from that comment from Rod that web building is far, far, faster. As I was building my web folders on my studio machine there was a limit to the things I could do whilst it churned and churned. If I do the folder building on this PC in my home I can at least brew a cup of coffee.

If you care to set me up with Publisher access on your dev server I'll at least be able to see what Rod means by far, far faster. If there is a real difference I'll (a) see what my FTP guys say about moving me to Linux. If not then it really is not worth the effort as the 'system ain't broke' as it is.

Maybe sometime I may be tempted to redesign my galleries but I doubt it. I have ten years of negatives to digitize and add to my scrapbook - and doing that is, for me anyway, more important than making the existing ones a bit smarter.

Thanks again for your help. It is much appreciated and valued.

Tony

#43 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-12 23:26:01

Ben,

No there is nothing dynamic. There are .doc and spreadsheets but I don't think one calls them Windows-specific does one?

The whole thing is a socking great batch of images, html files and hyperlinks. Presumably Linux treats them the same as Windows.

A quarter of a million files and about 23 gigs,

I can't see them doing it for nothing and probably they will up my monthly charge. All this to get web folders being created a bit faster. I can't see myself doing much more with what comes with Publisher. I can build my menus and sub menus with Frontpage and that is pretty well all I need.

And then there is inevitably a minor chance that on the new server I still cannot get Publisher to run.

Maybe I'll feel more confident when tomorrow comes and I can talk to them.

Bye for now.

Tony

#44 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-12 22:17:31

This is the host, Ben.

http://www.asp-host.co.uk/

Presumably you can work out whether they are running the software you say causes problems?

I'll look for the .php file.

EDIT. It is there.

EDIT. Does it need special permissions?

Tony

#45 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-12 20:07:24

Good morning gents.

I have loaded the first bits into Lightroom and now am trying to get the ttg-be login.

I am getting 503 Service unavailable with my browser. The data config is all ticks when I have the config showing 777.

I have no problem accessing the site with my normal FTP software which is Filezilla.

If it is a setting at the FTP supplier then I don't expect to get much help on a Sunday - and anyway I don't know what to ask him.

What can I try next, please?

EDIT

AH. Now I at least get that text. Odd.....But worth more fiddling around I guess.

SECOND EDIT.

Does this help?

mkdir(): No such file or directory|#0 [internal function]: ErrorHandler::handleError(2, 'mkdir(): No suc...', 'D:\Sites\tonyga...', 144, Array) #1 D:\Sites\tonygamble.org\public_html\ttg-be\framework\helpers\GenericApplicationHelper.php(144): mkdir('CORE_DATA_DIR/s...') #2 D:\Sites\tonygamble.org\public_html\ttg-be\framework\helpers\AuthHelper.php(58): GenericApplicationHelper::makeDataDirectoryIfNeeded('CORE_DATA_DIR/s...') #3 D:\Sites\tonygamble.org\public_html\ttg-be\framework\init.php(95): AuthHelper::handleSession() #4 D:\Sites\tonygamble.org\public_html\ttg-be\admin\index.php(17): require_once('D:\Sites\tonyga...') #5 {main}|URL: /ttg-be/admin/index.php


Tony

#47 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-12 06:52:48

Can you confirm that I put the TTH-BE files in my public_html folder please? Or in the root?

I then do I create my galleries folder within that public_html folder or back from the root of the FTP server.

I am going to give this a go tomorrow morning (GMT) and maybe none of you good folk will be around to guide me.

Sleep well.

Tony

#48 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-12 01:32:41

Thanks again guys.

Brief spell between the two races. Oxford ladies beat Cambridge ladies. Chaps at 17.50..

Time to think.

I see what you are saying now about access to the FTP and working in a secure area.

What I could do is totally abandon LR on my studio PC and bring the folders of file to 'publish' via memory stick to my office PC with the internet link. In fact there would be an advantage as those files have no 'signature' overlaid. I need those clean files when my clients ask for copies and it will save time to have them on this machine - rather than going to the studio to collect them.

As long as I can cross hyperlink from one base folder to the other - and I am sure I can - I see no problem about having another base folder to my existing public_html one. I'd probably call the new one publisher_galleries to remind myself why it is there.

Now to re-look at that installation video - and of course it is much easier to use now it is viewable on the machine on which I am doing the installation.

Bye for the moment.

Tony

#49 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-12 00:34:47

Thanks folk.

Pardon my slow replies. In the UK we have just had the Grand National and in hour we have the Oxford Cambridge Boat Race.

The latter is outside my window!

Back later.

Tony

#50 Re: CE4 Publisher » How to integrate Publisher with existing web site » 2015-04-11 23:48:02

Hi Tony, are there any road-blocks in changing your workflow?  It's a reasonable assumption that to create web galleries that your PC actually be on the web.

Would you run an FTP site with a thousand plus folders on a root folder and new entries on another root folder?

Take a look at my main menu on http://www.tonygamble.org/hurllist/

It is not pretty but it works. I'd much prefer to put Monday's web folder at the top of the list rather than start another menu. And I want to start adding 'archive' entries at the bottom as I scan old negs and previously unpublished digital folders. I really don't want an old menu and a new one.

Catalogues are also central to the use of Lightroom.  Without them you're rendering LR to be little more than an image viewer (if even that).  The Publisher settings, album structure and contents of the galleries, are all stored in the catalogue.  This isn't just our approach, but integral to the way that Lightroom functions.

I only use it as an image viewer that has a web folder creating facilty that supports Matthew's plug in. Matthew is the only person I found who created web folders that swiped and autosized on pads and phones. I looked a jAlbum and WordPress but they all wanted me to use their web sites. Matthew lets me use my own.

I convert my RAWs with Qimage as it does it better than LR. I edit any shots in Picture Window Pro as it does it better than Photoshop. I had consigned Lightroom to the archived software until I came across TTG!

Tony

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