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Ben,
Had a quick look at the new cart (I'm tied up in other projects requiring my full attention).
For sale to individuals within EU the cart works. However, Swedish regulations require prices be stated inclusive of VAT when selling to individuals or entities not registered for VAT and the prices in my cart is inclusive of Swedish VAT at 25%. Clients outside EU (or VAT registered entities within EU but outside Sweden for that matter) are not to be imposed VAT. The way the cart works in the current beta VAT is not deducted if the client is outside EU. A workaround would be to set up a new cart for clients outside EU but that is likely to cause some confusion so I prefer not to go down that route. For me, the approach suggested/implemented by Wolfram (to state prices without VAT) will not work as that would mean that I don't comply with the Swedish rules. Will it require a lot of work to have the cart deduct the VAT if and when the client is outside EU?
For those of us that have a client base of only individuals we can accept that the cart doesn't deal with EU VAT registered entities but for those that have a client base that includes VAT registered clients I guess it will be more of a problem.
Regards
Is there an ETA for an update? The cart as it stands for now is, to be blunt, useless for European customers with cross-border sales as the cart doesn't comply with European VAT-legislation. If there are no plans of updating I suggest that it is clearly disclosed that the cart can't be used if/when the vendor and the purchaser are located in different EU-jurisdictions.
Ben,
Below please find my comments.
1. Physical goods
VAT is to be collected if sold from any EU country to any other EU country if the buyer is an individual or a business not registered for VAT.
VAT rate is fixed (Vendor jurisdiction rate) unless the Vendor reaches a country specific threshold of sales to a foreign jurisdiction. These thresholds differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and range from some EUR26k (Romania) to EUR100k. If the threshold is met the Vendor will have to register for VAT in that jurisdiction and charge VAT at the rate that applies in that jurisdiction. Without knowing I would guess that very few (and certainly not I) will reach the various thresholds (if I do I will be happy to register for VAT in that jurisdiction). If my company (a Swedish corporate entity) have sales of EUR30k to Romania and EUR10k to France I would have to register for VAT in Romania (and charge Romanian VAT) but not in France (the threshold in France is EUR100k). So my sales to Romania would trigger 24% VAT (Romanian rate) and my sales to France would trigger Swedish VAT at the rate of 25% (the French VAT rate is 20%).
Yes, shipping address has to be collected
Correct, no VAT or sales tax to any other EU-country
It would be good if the cart could validate VAT reg no but I guess the work needed to implement such a feature is too much.However, it should be quite easy for the Vendor to validate the VAT reg no (at least in Sweden) as the Tax Agency as well as the EU commission have a website were the VAT reg no can be validated (can be done within minutes). One solution would therefore be to have orders were a buyer asks for not being imposed VAT put on hold at check out and released for processing once the Vendor has validated the number. Not sure if this is hard to implement.
2. Digital goods
I believe the rules are EU-specific, i.e. I don't think that a Norwegian vendor (Norway is not part of EU) shall impose VAT on sales outside of Norway.
Yes, rate varies depending on country of buyer.
Yes, at least the address has to be collected
Yes, you will need to pay VAT to each country in EU that you've sold to. However, in Sweden (and I guess in other EU-jurisdictions as well) you can use the MOSS system (Mini One Stop Shop) and report all of the VAT reported and paid to the Swedish TA and the Swedish TA then distribute the "foreign" VAT to the "foreign" jurisdiction. Using this system it shouldn't be that cumbersome for a Vendor to offer digital downloads to other EU jurisdictions than the Vendor home jurisdiction.
Edit: back-calculation of tax would be a nice feature.
Regards
Hans
Is there an ETA for a potential update of the Cart to deal with the VAT issue on sales within EU. There is one treatment for digital downloads (very cumbersome) and a different treatment for physical deliveries (not that difficult I guess to have the cart deal with this).
//Hans
I have set up a cart in Swedish and I would like to set up a cart in English. Haven't been able to find documentation on what I need to do to have this to work so I take the chance that someone will point me in the right direction. The carts will be "identical" save for the language but I haven't found a way to have the different carts display separate languages (i.e. Gallery_SE Swedish and Gallery_Int English) as there is no language settings in the Gallery that hosts the products. Do I have to use separate folders for separate languages, i.e. put the English cart in a separate folder under ttg-be, so that I have a "cart" and "cart2" and have Gallery_SE link to "cart" and Gallery_Int to "cart2" or how do I go about?
Regards
Hans
Thanks! I'm just happy that you can't see me blushing.
//Hans
Rod,
In the Gallery Image Info as well as in the Publisher setting I have caption and {caption} respectively as the Cart Item Name. I use Publisher (2.2.1), CE4 (6.1.5), Cart (3.0.5) and TTG-BE (2.0.3) and I believe that the versions I use are the latest.
I've tried your suggestions but I just can't get it to work (I even fiddled with the filename setting in Publisher to no avail). I experience the same when uploading a gallery directly, i.e. without using publisher.
My website is still only in Swedish but the following link will get you to one of the carts and as the only difference from a cart in English is the language it should be fairly easy for you to have a look: www.hvtfoto.se/portfolios/kattdjur. If you add one of the pictures to the cart the pop-up box will let you pick size and quality. A small picture/thumbnail is displayed and the pop-up box reads "Fotografi/fotografier" (that's what I'm offering) but there is no filename and/or caption identifying the photo. If you then go to view the cart you'll see that the caption. e.g. Tiger 1, Indien, is displayed. If an order is actually placed, the order email and the client order confirmation email displays both the filename and the caption.
Reason for edit: Tried to include screenshots but failed and deleted that part of the message.
Thanks but I don't really understand. I guess that you're referring to the settings in the CE4cart LR-plug-in. In image info as well as Publisher I have the setting "caption" in the Cart Item Name boxes but the caption (Lion 1, Lion 2 etc) is not displayed. If I can't have both the filename and the caption I prefer the caption as my file naming convention is unrelated to the content of the photo. The caption is displayed with the thumbnail but when clicking on the thumb to order a picture the pop-up box just states "photos" and I find that a bit confusing.
Ben,
A new column would be perfect.
VAT is the only tax that has to be collected. The European "sales tax" is the VAT.
The rules for digital downloads are to my understanding somewhat different than the rules for physical delivery. When it comes to digital downloads I believe the rules are quite cumbersome, as a Vendor you need to be registered in each EU jurisdiction (although I understand that the registration is handled by the Tax Agency in your own jurisdiction) and there are also some thresholds which I don't know from the top of my head but can check early next week.
Yes, back-calculation of tax would be useful as well.
//Hans
We've interpreted that VAT needs to be collected for digital purchases sold from non-EU countries to EU countries. I'll ask Matt to chime in on that.
Hans, rather than a new state, the way I have planned to do this is to add a new column to countries named something such as 'is_eu', which would be set to Yes for those 27 or so countries. VAT would then be calculated into any sales that originate from one EU country for sales to another EU country. We would then need to also capture the customer's country prior to checkout.
From your understanding, can you help with these questions:
1) Is VAT the only tax you would need to collect? i.e. is there also an additional Sales Tax for sales to EU customers, or for sales to non-EU customers?
2) Do the rules for VAT tax collection apply the same to both digital and physical items?On a side note, another feature that European customers have requested is back-calculation of tax. (so for example, a 10% tax on a $100 item would be calculated as 9.09 giving you 90.91 after taxes paid). Would you find this method useful in general and in particular in regards to the VAT changes? This change is already ready in my code.
A US Vendor would not charge VAT to a buyer in Europe (I don't know if he would charge sales tax but I don't think so). A Vendor within EU (not all European countries, 27 I think) would charge VAT to a buyer within EU. Isn't it possible to include a new "state" in the sales tax field and call that state EU and the chart pick this up the same way it does for e.g. The state of Texas?
Ben,
Are you asking me or Wolfram? If me, I would say; implementation of the cart in a way that is compliant with EU VAT regulations. If that's not possible, at least an option that makes it possible to have VAT charged on sales within EU.
In order to stress the importance of my request it would be nice if other cart users within the EU would chip in and second my proposal as the more requests to this effect the higher the chance of implementation.
//Hans
Thanks Ben,
For now I don't sell much outside Sweden but it makes me a bit uncomfortable knowing that the cart doesn't comply with tax regulations. I appreciate the fact that it might be difficult and requires a lot of work to implement a feature that captures the VAT status uf the buyer. That being said, is it difficult to add a feature which capture if the sale is to someone within EU? That would solve most of my problems as I as a business with primarily, not to say exclusively, individuals as clients is obliged to charge VAT on sales to individuals within EU (I believe that I can make arrangements so that any potential EU resident and VAT registered entity can contact me by other means to arrange the sale in the rare event that such an event happens). One suggestion (have no idea whether or not this is difficult to implement) is to have a field/option stating "include sales tax to EU". That would solve close to 100% of my sales as I'm obliged to charge VAT on sales to UK, Denmark, Finland etc but not to Norway (not part of the EU community). BTW, I don't offer digital downloads.
Regards
Hans
Sales from/within Sweden (from a business) triggers VAT if the customer (company or individual) is resident in Sweden. If the customer is resident in another EU-jurisdiction (i.e. Denmark, UK etc) the Swedish seller is obliged to charge VAT unless the customer is a company registered for VAT (in which case the reverse charge mechanism is used). As the rules are harmonised the same applies the other way around, i.e. sales from Denmark to Sweden, UK etc. triggers VAT unless the customer is registered for VAT.
In the cart it's only possible to have one country as the jurisdiction in which VAT is to be applied. It would be nice to have an option to set "EU" as the jurisdiction (and also if possible to exclude VAT charged on sales to other EU-jurisdictions if the buyer provides the VAT-registration number).
Is this something that is being worked at? If not, is this something that's possible to change "on your own" and if so, what files do I have to tamper with?
Regards
Hans
Almost done with my set-up but there are a few things that I haven't been able to figure out how to fix.
When selecting the cart (whether from the thumbnail or the highslide picture) to add a photo, the pop-up window displays a small version of the selected photo together with the Product Attributes (size and paper quality). The "title" in the pop-up window display the Product name ("Photos"), i.e. the name of the schedule with the Product Attributes. I would like the pop-up window to display ID (filename) and title (caption) of the selected photo (had this working in CE2). Is this possible? ID and caption is displayed on the summary page (the page were you review your order before check-out) so the info as such is there albeit not displayed in the pop-up window.
Any help/input is highly appreciated.
Regards
Hans
Rod/Ben,
Thanks!
//Hans
As per the subject line. As I don't offer any photo packages I would like to remove that option from displaying in the cart but I haven't found a way to do this. Any input is appreciated.
//Hans
Thanks!
//Hans
Thanks!
//Hans
Just started using Publisher (testing phase). When uploading a gallery via Publisher the gallery page display the level and the gallery name (i.e. "Modeller" and "test"). The text show up in the top left corner of the gallery container. I don't want that to be displayed as it messes up the look of the gallery. Tried various settings to get rid of the information included by Publisher but without any success. Any input is highly appreciated.
//Hans
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