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#1 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Theme Templates Menu Addition » 2019-11-28 10:53:54

rod barbee wrote:

Have you installed the WordPress add-on from your Backlight Modules page?

Now why would I have to do that? smile smile smile

Thanks, Rod, for reminding me of the obvious. So much of Backlight is automatic now that, although I had a faint thought that some step was missing, I never thought of checking the Backlight Modules page.

#2 Backlight 2 Support » Theme Templates Menu Addition » 2019-11-28 10:18:48

charking
Replies: 2

I have just purchased the WordPress Theme Template add-on and have updated the Backlight settings with my WordPress URL.

The next step in the WordPress Add-on Basics documentation are the instructions:

     In Backlight's menu, go Designer ⇒ Templates.
     You will find a new section on this page, Theme Templates.
     Click “Create New Template”.

The new section Theme Templates is not appearing in the templates drop-down list or in the Templates page.

What have I missed?

#3 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Publisher Resizing Photos on Upload? » 2019-02-17 11:23:16

Matthew wrote:

Yeah, equivalence is probably impossible. Lr does its own compression under-the-hood and uploads the resulting JPEGs directly to your site, and we're not privy to what goes on during that process. Backlight sizes images using -- and Ben may correct me if I am mistaken -- the GD Graphics Library that is usually available with standard-config Apache/PHP hosting packages.

Thanks, Matthew. Another possibly unanswerable question for you and Ben: Since I have to export my photographs from Lightroom in order to publish them using the Backlight Publisher, is there any quality setting in Lightroom which is best suited for the sizing procedures used in the Backlight Publisher? 100%? 75%? Another? Using the Backlight Publisher involves using two lossy compression procedures, the Lightroom one followed by the Backlight Publisher one, so one should be careful here.

#4 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Publisher Resizing Photos on Upload? » 2019-02-17 05:55:02

Ben wrote:

The resizing is performed by completely different image engines between LR and Backlight, so the file sizes produced by the two will differ.  That includes the way that each handles the JPEG quality setting.

Thanks, Ben. I guess then that it's not possible to define any equivalence; it's a matter of playing with the settings to see what results are achieved. As I said, I'm happy with the results I'm getting and probably will simply leave things as they are.

#5 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Hamburger Menu Items » 2019-02-17 05:32:03

rod barbee wrote:

Navigation > Vertical Navigation > Menu Items : Color

Or were you referring to the hamburger icon color?

Thanks again, Rod. Once again, something simple set a couple of months ago and then forgotten. I expected special coding. I even kept my Adobe fonts.

The hamburger icon is blue right now and matches the social website icons in colour and sizing. Just for interest's sake, how can it be changed?

#6 Backlight 2 Support » Hamburger Menu Items » 2019-02-17 04:55:08

charking
Replies: 23

When I view my web site on my cell phone or tablet, also when I horizontally compress the web browser window on my desktop, the hamburger menu appears in the upper left hand corner of the screen to provide the navigation menu items. In my case these appear in a small blue type font. As I recall with Backlight 1 these menu items appeared in a larger black font. I am using Adobe fonts, but I don't think this is affecting the hamburger menu items. Is there a way I can change this small blue font and; if so, where would the code be so that I can write the necessary overriding custom code?

My web site: http://charleskinghorn.com

#7 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Publisher Resizing Photos on Upload? » 2019-02-17 02:26:39

rod barbee wrote:

I don’t know if the Backlight publisher affects jpg quality, that’s something Matt or Ben can address.

Here’s something Matt wrote about Lightroom’s Joen Settings
http://ce4.theturninggate.net/2012/03/1 … -settings/

I know. I read Matthew's posting last night which led me to Jeffrey Friedl's. I'll wait for Matthew's or Ben's response. I'm very happy with the results I'm getting; I just want to understand the underlying logic so that I can better apply it. I've spent the last few days looking at JPEGmini and other compression software and websites (Squoosh for example) in order to improve website loading speeds. Given the compression I'm seeing in the Backlight Publisher, are these even necessary?

#8 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Publisher Resizing Photos on Upload? » 2019-02-17 01:59:11

Thanks, Rod, for pointing that out. My template setting is 69% (possibly the default on implementation; I can't be sure if I changed it or not but probably not). And that was set up two months ago, easy to forget. What is the equivalent Lightroom value? As Jeffrey Friedl pointed out:

"Adding to the confusion for Lightroom users is the fact that Lightroom's JPEG quality setting is unique: it's different from every other photo-processing app I know, including other Adobe products. “Quality 73” in Lightroom, for example, is not the same as “Quality 73” in Photoshop or any other app that I know of."

The same photographs exported from Lightroom at Quality = 55 still add up to 7.8 MB.  Quality = 50 goes a bit weird and adds up to 7.99 MB. So, although the 69% I have set is affecting the results, something else is affecting the compression as well.

#9 Backlight 2 Support » Publisher Resizing Photos on Upload? » 2019-02-17 01:09:16

charking
Replies: 9

I'm using the Publisher within Backlight 2 to upload my galleries or albums to my website, not the Lightroom version. One album of 38 photographs has a total size of 12.1MB after exporting from Lightroom (with a quality value of 75). If I then upload it to my website with Backlight's Publisher and afterwards download it, its total size is 6.0 MB. Each photograph has been resized smaller. What's the logic involved here and how does it affect the appearance of the photographs on screen? Using JPEGmini to compress the photographs before uploading to the website actually produces slightly worse results.

#10 Backlight 2 Support » Going from test to live » 2019-02-12 21:57:04

charking
Replies: 1

I have upgraded my website to Backlight 2 using the pangolin modules in a test region. I now want to go "live" and move all the new code into the proper directories on my sever. For those who have worked this way, any warnings or suggestions? What links will I have to update or change? Is there a simple way to do this? ("Hope springs eternal in the human breast.")

#11 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Cover Image Appearing at Higher Levels » 2019-02-11 21:45:11

rod barbee wrote:

In that case, export some representative images from the albums within a set. Make them the necessary size. Then upload  them via FTP to the album set’s thumbnails/ folder. I think album sets contain a thumbnails/ folder. If not, just make one.
Do this for all albums sets.

Thanks, Rod; that works like a charm. A bit of extra work, but it gives me that animation that I like.

#12 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Cover Image Appearing at Higher Levels » 2019-02-11 12:19:00

rod barbee wrote:

Edit the album sets themselves. Under Base Settings choose the cover image for each.

That works if a single image is selected, but I want the random selection which works at the lower level.

#13 Backlight 2 Support » Cover Image Appearing at Higher Levels » 2019-02-11 09:25:05

charking
Replies: 4

In redoing my website using the pangolin modules, I am creating album sets within my highest-level album set. How can I get the cover images of my albums to appear in the thumbnail grid of my highest-level album set? See http://charleskinghorn.com/bl2test/galleries/.

#14 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-02-03 07:28:58

Matthew wrote:

I had a peak at your galleries and I'm not seeing the issue.

The problem appears in my test region where I'm implementing Backlight 2. Any photograph which contacts the black bar at the top of the screen; the hook in the "g" of my name is being cut off: http://charleskinghorn.com/bl2test/galleries/.

#15 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-29 03:27:27

rod barbee wrote:

after undoing the changes to the backlight code, did you clear template cache?

I just did. I also tried three different browsers, clearing the history in each. The truncation is still happening.

#16 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-29 02:20:08

rod barbee wrote:
charking wrote:
rod barbee wrote:

I don’t know about the photos being cut off. I couldn’t see that happening on my monitor

You couldn't see the lower part of the "g" (the hook) being cut off? It's on my test version http://charleskinghorn.com/bl2test/galleries/. The worst case is 6 of 21. It's happening on all three of my browsers, Opera, Chrome, and Edge.

I see it now. It was so slight that I missed it the first time.
This doesn't happen in my albums.

It's hard to tell why this is happening because it could be a result of changes you've made directly to the code.

If the changes were made in custom css then it would be easier to pinpoint what's causing this to happen. As it is, I really have no way of telling.

I have put all my font size changes into custom.css and removed the duplicate execution of this code. I have also reinstalled the Backlight 2 modules so that my earlier changes directly to the code have been removed. Right now I have two albums published in http://charleskinghorn.com/bl2test/galleries/, one with the caption and one without. In both cases the bottoms of the tallest vertical photographs are being truncated.

#17 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-27 10:01:49

rod barbee wrote:

It's hard to tell why this is happening because it could be a result of changes you've made directly to the code.

If the changes were made in custom css then it would be easier to pinpoint what's causing this to happen. As it is, I really have no way of telling.

Understood. Thanks, Rod, for all your help on this. I'm going to remove the caption until I can write custom code for those changes. As to the duplication of the execution of custom.css, you are probably right. I've just been staring at the screen too long to check it out now; it will have to be tomorrow morning.

#18 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-27 08:18:57

rod barbee wrote:

As Daniel mentioned elsewhere, you have two custom css files bring loaded. You only really need the one.
(Or maybe it’s the same one being loaded twice?)
I’m guessing that you’re using phplugins to bring in one of them. You don’t need to do that so I’d suggest removing that code from your phplugins file, or, if you’re not using phplugins for anything else, just disable phplugins in the template.

But to answer your question, yes, just add the css to your existing custom css file.

There is actually only one occurrence of custom.css in my code. Originally, when I started switching over to the Pangolin modules by rebuilding everything back in early December and introduced an Adobe typekit, I executed custom.css before and after the reference to the Adobe typkit because I thought it might be the solution to a problem I was having at the time. Actually at that point I had two versions of custom.css, custom and custom2 which ended up containing the same code. I deleted custom2.css and the first reference, the one before the Adobe typekit line; but it keeps showing up when I execute the code.

My code on the server:
function head() {
    echo'
    <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="https://use.typekit.net/mxy6glm.css">
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="/bl2test/backlight/custom/css/custom.css" />
    ';
}

The code on execution:
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="/bl2test/backlight/custom/css/custom.css" />
    <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="https://use.typekit.net/mxy6glm.css">
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="/bl2test/backlight/custom/css/custom.css" />

I don't know why the custom.css line appears before the Adobe one when I execute the code. It seems to be a ghost from the past.

#19 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-27 06:27:07

rod barbee wrote:

It’s pretty easy to do the custom code. Just copy the existing rule (using the browser inspector to find it), drop it in your custom css file and make the necessary change.

Thanks, Rod. I'll give it a try. The same custom.css file that already exists?

#20 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-27 06:24:23

rod barbee wrote:

I don’t know about the photos being cut off. I couldn’t see that happening on my monitor

You couldn't see the lower part of the "g" (the hook) being cut off? It's on my test version http://charleskinghorn.com/bl2test/galleries/. The worst case is 6 of 21. It's happening on all three of my browsers, Opera, Chrome, and Edge.

#21 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-27 05:42:45

rod barbee wrote:

those kind of changes can and should be made with custom css, that way you don’t have to muck with the code.

Understood, but until I learn how to do the necessary custom code they will have to stay. I worked with companies which had done so much custom code that they couldn't upgrade to a new version of their software without a lot of work; some didn't even try to upgrade. In those cases they had modified the actual code from the supplier. They had no choice; the ability to write separate custom override routines was not available.

What about the bottoms of my photographs being cut off?

#22 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-27 05:18:34

rod barbee wrote:
charking wrote:

I have reverted to the 0.75rem font sizing for the caption "{CellNumber} of {NumImages}". To my mind this font sizing is way too small in my situation. However, more importantly, even this is cutting off the bottoms of some of my photographs. This can be seen in the letter g in my copyright in the lower left hand corner of each photograph. Any photograph which is attached to the black bar across the top of the slideshow screen (no white spacing between the photograph and the black bar) is truncated at the bottom. The long side of each photograph is 960 pixels.

I also had to play with the font sizing for the gallery descriptions in the descriptive thumbnail grid and the copyright statement at the bottom of each screen. Both were too small and had to be enlarged. So far I have seen no ill effects as a result of increasing the rem values in these two situations. I can see some value in allowing the user to define these values.

Just curious, but where are you making these changes? I don't see anything in your custom css that would affect these things.

I have modified the font-size rem values in the following code:

figcaption php: to resize the fonts in the gallery descriptions in the descriptive thumbnail grid
fancybox.php: to affect the caption font size, but now reverted to the original 0.75rem
pallet_top_bottom.php: to resize the font for the copyright message at the bottom of each screen

The problem, of course, is that I will have to remake these changes with any upgrade to Backlight 2 which affects the changed code. Although I have spent many years programming, it has all been on the mainframe, not on PCs. I can make my way around the code in Backlight 2 sufficiently well to make these small changes; but I don't have enough experience to set up the necessary custom code from scratch.

#23 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-27 03:41:35

I have reverted to the 0.75rem font sizing for the caption "{CellNumber} of {NumImages}". To my mind this font sizing is way too small in my situation. However, more importantly, even this is cutting off the bottoms of some of my photographs. This can be seen in the letter g in my copyright in the lower left hand corner of each photograph. Any photograph which is attached to the black bar across the top of the slideshow screen (no white spacing between the photograph and the black bar) is truncated at the bottom. The long side of each photograph is 960 pixels.

I also had to play with the font sizing for the gallery descriptions in the descriptive thumbnail grid and the copyright statement at the bottom of each screen. Both were too small and had to be enlarged. So far I have seen no ill effects as a result of increasing the rem values in these two situations. I can see some value in allowing the user to define these values.

A secondary issue: I am being logged off Backlight 2 unexpectedly and for no apparent reason.

#24 Re: Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-26 10:22:21

rod barbee wrote:

It seems to be the font size used for the caption. It's pushing up the caption area so that it covers the bottom of vertical images.

On your site, that font-size is set to 1.25rem (20px)

On my test site, it's set to .75rem (12px)

I have no idea why there's a difference, there's no setting I can see in the in the album template to control the caption font-size.

Are you using the latest version of Backlight?

The solution to one problem causes another. See http://community.theturninggate.net/vie … 445#p57445.

I am not sure, but my thinking is that the Adobe font that I am using for the text in my website is smaller than normal at 16px. That means that any text at .75rem is too small when displayed on the screen. This issue affected both the font size in the descriptive grid thumbnail entries and in the captions. I modified the code for both to get the size of text I wanted. Hence the 1.25rem for captions. I will have to play with it to see if I can get a balance where the caption is still readable without squinting; otherwise it goes.

It would seem to me that it might be a good idea to allow the user to set their own caption and thumbnail grid description font sizes instead of depending on a fixed fraction of the rem value.

#25 Backlight 2 Support » Captions Cutting Off Bottoms of Photos in Slideshow » 2019-01-26 08:45:14

charking
Replies: 24

I'm using the caption "{CellNumber} of {NumImages}" in the slideshow. Larger photographs, especially vertical ones, are having the bottoms cut off as a result. If I remove the caption and reload the photographs into the album, the problem disappears (also, of course, so do the captions smile). See http://charleskinghorn.com/bl2test/gall … rid-spain/.

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